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Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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In the article, Boise is challenging a court ruling that cities cannot ticket or arrest the homeless if there are no shelter beds available. This begs the question how ticketing/arresting clears the streets? By shoving them elsewhere for another city to ticket? Or housing them in jail (at a much higher expense)?

Later in the article it does mention that LA (correction from Boise) is also voiding millions of citations on the homeless, and that those citations were keeping the homeless from accessing services, like housing. That brings even more questions about the usefulness of ticketing for homelessness.

Edit: correction it is LA not Boise voiding citations.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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post #4

In the article, Boise is challenging a court ruling that cities cannot ticket or arrest the homeless if there are no shelter beds available. This begs the question how ticketing/arresting clears the streets? By shoving them elsewhere for another city to ticket? Or housing them in jail (at a much higher expense)? Later in the article it does mention that LA (correction from Boise) is also voiding millions of citations…

Usually putting them in jail.

Then at least you don't have residents complaining about homeless tent camps. And the cops feel like they have a tool to "fight homelessness." And the added (perceived) incentive of disincentivizing people from coming to your area to be homeless and set up semi-permanent tent camps.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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To save you a click, the "City in Idaho", which is clearly written to make it sound like a village of like 10 people in the middle of nowhere, is Boise.

Which is about 700k people (when counting the metro area). Which is not huge...but a long way from small.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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post #4

In the article, Boise is challenging a court ruling that cities cannot ticket or arrest the homeless if there are no shelter beds available. This begs the question how ticketing/arresting clears the streets? By shoving them elsewhere for another city to ticket? Or housing them in jail (at a much higher expense)? Later in the article it does mention that LA (correction from Boise) is also voiding millions of citations…

Usually putting them in jail. Then at least you don't have residents complaining about homeless tent camps. And the cops feel like they have a tool to "fight homelessness." And the added (perceived) incentive of disincentivizing people from coming to your area to be homeless and set up semi-permanent tent camps.

And women and children being able to walk the streets without being harassed is another -- as you might write "(perceived)" -- incentive.

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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post #4

In the article, Boise is challenging a court ruling that cities cannot ticket or arrest the homeless if there are no shelter beds available. This begs the question how ticketing/arresting clears the streets? By shoving them elsewhere for another city to ticket? Or housing them in jail (at a much higher expense)? Later in the article it does mention that LA (correction from Boise) is also voiding millions of citations…

I think that is an error in the article. I live in Boise. The law allows ticketing if there IS room in shelters. People would not be ticketed if the shelters are full.

Not saying it's a good law. But the article is wrong.

Edit: Here is the relevant section of the actual code.

> Enforcement: Law enforcement officers shall not enforce this camping section when the individual is on public property and there is no available overnight shelter

https://citycode.cityofboise.org/home/standard/7-3A-2

Re: Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of homeless encampments

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usually putting them in jail. Then at least you don't have residents complaining about homeless tent camps. And the cops feel like they have a tool to "fight homelessness." And the added (perceived) incentive of disincentivizing people from coming to your area to be homeless and set up semi-permanent tent camps.

And women and children being able to walk the streets without being harassed is another -- as you might write "(perceived)" -- incentive.

Unless, of course, those women and children are homeless.
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