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Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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Open source developers shouldn't be forced to lock away additional functionality in their apps, or resort to special tricks just to be able to receive donations for their projects. Google could make a positive impact by introducing new features that help users seamlessly fund their favourite open source apps, right from their Google accounts. GitHub has recently introduced a similar initiative called GitHub Sponsors…

Completely agree. I do not want to restrict any users. Annoying how hard it is to be independent of FAANG control.

I don’t know much about Android, but is the Play store necessary? If it isn’t, then isn’t that independence from FAANG control?

Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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Yes, it does actually. Article 22 of the GDPR covers this. https://gdpr-info.eu/art-22-gdpr/

GDPR doesn't cover apps, or organizations a data subject can only be an individual.

Individual developers (sole proprietors) are covered under GDPR!

Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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Ah yes, the multi-billion dollar megacorp trying to prevent goodwill donations. Dear regulators: BREAK UP GOOGLE.

To play devil's advocate, I'm sure Google's intent is to prevent garbage apps from spamming or tricking users into paying money and the resulting PR backlash from having an app store full of shady apps.

As evidence of this, Google does allow donations if the publisher is a 501(c)(3) (see https://support.google.com/faqs/answer/75724?hl=en).

Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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I am not sure why it needs to be called a donation. Just let the in-app purchase unlock some cosmetics in the app like games do. You weren't going to deduct the donation from your taxes anyway. I am curious how this ends up working out. Google takes a cut of the donations now... but the process of buying is probably easier. So maybe it will increase donation revenue, and make it easier to support free software. (Taki…

Open source developers shouldn't be forced to lock away additional functionality in their apps, or resort to special tricks just to be able to receive donations for their projects. Google could make a positive impact by introducing new features that help users seamlessly fund their favourite open source apps, right from their Google accounts. GitHub has recently introduced a similar initiative called GitHub Sponsors…

>> Just let the in-app purchase unlock some cosmetics in the app like games do.

> Open source developers shouldn't be forced to lock away additional functionality in their apps

I don't think functionality was what was suggested. Literally cosmetics. A nice banner that says thanks for supporting the project would likely be sufficient.

Edit: Although I agree it shouldn't be required. As a workaround it doesn't seem too bad though.

Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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Yes, and this is the real issue to me. The end user having a computer science PhD or not won't change that.

How is that? If more 'ordinary' people understood that the only functional encryption is one that is resistant to MitM etc., and the undesirability of implementing backdoors, even for ostensibly legitimate reasons, there would be far more pressure on legislators to not keep advancing these proposals than there is now.

Again, knowing that privacy is good doesn't have anything to do with the "underlying tech" and doesn't require any technological understanding. You can read a book without knowing how it was printed.

Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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I guess this will get lost in the noise, but a few years ago Apple relaxed its restrictions on IAP donations and allows developers to offer a "tip jar" where IAPs don't unlock any specific features. I've been shipping a free and open source app with a donate button on the App Store since mid-2017 [1]. 1. https://chatsecure.org/blog/sustainable-open-source-starts-w...

Does Apple take their customary cut? I am not interested in "donating" to Apple.

Ever use a credit card to make a donation anywhere?

Re: Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

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Google Play In-app Billing does not support donations [1], so open source developers should be allowed to link to their own donation pages. Google Play policies do not spell out that linking to donation platforms such as Patreon is forbidden. Disallowing developers from using in-app billing for donations, while also barring them from linking to external donation platforms, puts open source projects in a difficult pos…

> Disallowing developers from using in-app billing for donations, while also barring them from linking to external donation platforms, puts open source projects in a difficult position, and appears to be overly hostile towards funding open source development. Google Play has been very clear about this[1]: > Fund solicitations > Examples: Donation solicitations from parties without a valid 501(c)(3) tax exempt status…

It appears only non-profit organizations are allowed to use Google Play In-app Billing for donations, which is fine.

But why are we forbidden from linking to an external page that lists other ways to support a project, such as Patreon?

I think we should stop being apologetic, and begin to call out Google for the damage they are inflicting upon open source developers.

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