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Magic Mushrooms Can Help Smokers Kick the Habit
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Re: Magic Mushrooms Can Help Smokers Kick the Habit
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
I strongly disagree with the hypothesis that people are not responsible enough to make decisions for themselves.
'normal', well balanced people maybe. But the simple fact is, there are tons of people out there that are utterly broken inside for gazillions of reasons, not enough to end up in mental institution (or even enough but ie recently released), but a total mess nevertheless. Talk to doctors in ER (or cops) about their experiences if you care. It is a sad and sobering report on current state of raw mankind
>> But the simple fact is, there are tons of people out there that are utterly broken inside for gazillions of reasons
That doesn't mean the adult population (including the people you mention) shouldn't be given agency and the requisite respect to make decisions for themselves provided they are not harming other people.
>> Talk to doctors in ER (or cops) about their experiences if you care.
Given the number of vile, ignorant and disturbing things come out of the mouths of cops both on and off duty there are probably better ways to get an objective picture of the current raw state of raw mankind.
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#123I think it’s clear that there is a push for magic mushrooms to follow the same path as Cannabis has. It’s very hard to fight the war on drugs (from a personal liberty standpoint) one drug at a time. From my political position it’s personally insulting that institutions such as the DEA and FDA tell me what I can and cannot put into my body. I’m an adult, I can either make those decisions for myself or hire experts for…
> From my political position it’s personally insulting that institutions such as the DEA and FDA tell me what I can and cannot put into my body. I'm of two minds about that. While I agree that I ought to have full autonomy over my own body, at the same time the state has a vested interest in not allowing its population to fall victim to life-destroying drugs, especially when those drugs target the most vulnerable mem…
But isn’t it already illegal in Russia? Sounds like that’s not working out so well. Maybe time to try a different plan?
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#124Heroin helps from cough:
> ... Bayer marketed diacetylmorphine as an over-the-counter drug under the trademark name Heroin.[79] It was developed chiefly as a morphine substitute for cough suppressants that did not have morphine's addictive side-effects.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm also for increased drug legalization, but it's important to keep in mind the counter-balancing points as well. Lots of adults will make very poor decisions when presented with the easy opportunity to do so, at least at certain critical times. People fall on bad times routinely (job loss, death in the family, etc) and can quickly find themselves hopeless and/or depressed. In a completely unregulated environment, t…
I strongly disagree with the hypothesis that people are not responsible enough to make decisions for themselves.
As someone who used to sell magic mushrooms - legally and very responsibly in the UK - I'm afraid OP has a point.
Some people - a much younger version of myself included - are total idiots, not to be trusted.
But hey, personal responsibility and all that... .
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#126I think it’s clear that there is a push for magic mushrooms to follow the same path as Cannabis has. It’s very hard to fight the war on drugs (from a personal liberty standpoint) one drug at a time. From my political position it’s personally insulting that institutions such as the DEA and FDA tell me what I can and cannot put into my body. I’m an adult, I can either make those decisions for myself or hire experts for…
> It’s very hard to fight the war on drugs (from a personal liberty standpoint) one drug at a time. I think it’s really easy to have a different stance based upon the actual drug. I have no issues with marijuana and at no point in my life have feared of being robbed by someone trying to score money for a joint. But change that to heroin or meth and it’s a whole different situation.
The negative social side effects of these drugs have more do to with becoming a member of a stigmatized social group than the drug itself
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#127I think it’s clear that there is a push for magic mushrooms to follow the same path as Cannabis has. It’s very hard to fight the war on drugs (from a personal liberty standpoint) one drug at a time. From my political position it’s personally insulting that institutions such as the DEA and FDA tell me what I can and cannot put into my body. I’m an adult, I can either make those decisions for myself or hire experts for…
I think legalization is good. I also think universal healthcare is good. Unfortunately healthcare is super expensive and enabling certain behaviors increases costs a lot. Different estimates seem to suggest that (back in 2015) the opioid epidemic had had an economic cost somewhere between a half a trillion and a trillion dollars, and it's increasing [0, 1]. Full-on prohibition is bad, but maybe there's still lots of societal value in having some controlled substances.
[0] https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/images...
[1]https://altarum.org/news/economic-toll-opioid-crisis-us-exce....
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#128What's far more terrifying about this practice is that it's a method of reprogramming the way someone thinks. This is "Clockwork Orange" level experimentation. Imagine this being used in concentration camps or interrogations. Getting people to a mental state where they have no choice but to confess or conform because their minds will no longer let them "touch the cigarette". This is very scary.
There's a difference between enlisting help to enact desired changes in ones consciousness and being brainwashed. There's nothing "Clockwork Orange" about this.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just delete this comment. If you're not an expert on mushrooms, picking mushrooms is basically playing Russian roulette. Telling people to do so is wildly irresponsible.
Precious few mushrooms are truly poisonous. And I've picked and eaten A LOT of supposedly dangerous ones, as well as other plants; something I suspect most people speaking out on the subject haven't. As a matter of fact, I just got some red amanitas out of the freezer that I picked a few days ago. I'm going to fry them in butter with onions and garlic and make a lovely shroom sandwich. Like amanitas, liberty caps hav…
I love mushrooms, and pick and enjoy both edible and psychedelic types, but this advice is frankly terrible. Russian roulette indeed.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've always had a bit of a paranoid suspicion, and trust me, I know there is no evidence for it, and I wouldn't make it out to be more than just a feeling: That the elites of the world are happy to have drugs being illegal, as it is a way to channel unemployed, violent youth who want to make a quick buck. I mean, think of it this way: If you are a poor, violent and traumatized youth, and drugs were legal and you want…
>I mean, think of it this way: If you are a poor, violent and traumatized youth, and drugs were legal and you wanted to make a quick buck, you'd turn to robbery or worse, kidnapping/murder. Is there any evidence of such a "rise the lowest forbidden fruits won't impact the crop"? Without data, one could just as well argue that it favors criminal paths by smoothing the road. Think of it this way: if you rule death pena…
As stated, no evidence.
I would like to make a point that the effect doesn't have to benefit everyone equally. Historically powerful factions of society have pushed things to the detriment of the majority and the furtherance of a tiny minority.