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Magic Mushrooms Can Help Smokers Kick the Habit

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Re: Magic Mushrooms Can Help Smokers Kick the Habit

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Post by codr7 »

AllegedAlec wrote: post #70
ojhughes wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you not go and pick them where you are? I thought liberty caps were pretty widespread over Europe

Just delete this comment. If you're not an expert on mushrooms, picking mushrooms is basically playing Russian roulette. Telling people to do so is wildly irresponsible.

Precious few mushrooms are truly poisonous.

And I've picked and eaten A LOT of supposedly dangerous ones, as well as other plants; something I suspect most people speaking out on the subject haven't.

As a matter of fact, I just got some red amanitas out of the freezer that I picked a few days ago. I'm going to fry them in butter with onions and garlic and make a lovely shroom sandwich.

Like amanitas, liberty caps have a very distinctive look. Soak them in water for a while if at all unsure, and only eat a small amount to begin with.

The really dangerous stuff is pushed by "science" and the people who come up with this FUD to sell their artificial, truly poisonous and addictive chemical cocktails for awesome profits instead.

Re: Magic Mushrooms Can Help Smokers Kick the Habit

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Post by Footkerchief »

dpcan wrote: post #83

What's far more terrifying about this practice is that it's a method of reprogramming the way someone thinks. This is "Clockwork Orange" level experimentation. Imagine this being used in concentration camps or interrogations. Getting people to a mental state where they have no choice but to confess or conform because their minds will no longer let them "touch the cigarette". This is very scary.

It's less about suggestibility/blank-slateness and more about attaining unfiltered, holistic perspective.

Re: Magic Mushrooms Can Help Smokers Kick the Habit

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Post by ergothus »

semiotagonal wrote: post #95
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I look forward for the US to decriminalize all drugs. Is there evidence to prove that legal cocaine/meth/heroin being readily available for citizens would be good for society?

It surely wouldn't be good for American society, but at least it's a choice for those who decide to use those substances. As it stands, the prohibition on drugs has created a business that many find worth resorting to violence over, and it impacts people in Mexico who would never have chosen to get involved. There's no good answer here, but letting addicts drop out of society and damage their health with legal drugs…

You are skipping the audience that ARENT life-destroying addicts, such as the target of the article.

The fact that researchers can barely study schedule 1 drugs to determine if they should BE scheduled 1 drugs is a big red flag.

The disproportionate response, the people sent to jail for minor offenses, the....well, all the points in the post you are replying to that you didnt address.

How can you stick to your claims of morality if you don't consider ALL the impacts?

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Post by cf141q5325 »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #37
elboru wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I look forward for the US to decriminalize all drugs. I’m Mexican and I live near the border, I’ve seen every day for the last 10 years how cartels gain power with all the money sent from US consumers. That money and power has corrupted not only police and politicians, but also some sectors of the population, drugs and narcos used to be anathema to most people, now they are part of our pop culture, thanks to news, TV…

> I look forward for the US to decriminalize all drugs. Is there evidence to prove that legal cocaine/meth/heroin being readily available for citizens would be good for society?

Some European countries have very promising research projects supplying selected heroin addicts (with a long enough history of discontinued therapies) with medical heroin. They go to a state run distribution station once or twice a day and get a dose. With that acquisitive crime are no longer an issue and the subjects can reintegrate into a normal life.

Re: Magic Mushrooms Can Help Smokers Kick the Habit

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Post by andrei_says_ »

MichaelApproved wrote: post #5

Time and Time again, we see how stupid the war on drugs had been for humanity. Look at all the negatives: - Racist origins which disproportionately targeted minorities. It allowed police and prosecutorial discretion to arrest more minorities and give them longer sentences. - Stopped medical progress. Finally a flood of studies are showing us mushrooms, marijuana, MDMA, acid, and more have positive medical uses. - Gav…

We need to change the narrative around substances, their use and abuse.

Addiction is not a personal failure but a coping mechanism in the face of trauma and failed social contracts.

Drug enforcement is a tool of selective oppression and unchecked profit for many actors, from enforcement agencies to incarceration. Prisoners are extremely expensive in tax money, and are treated inhumanely + used for forced labor. We as society seem to be happy to pay very high cost, including in money, to treat people horribly.

Prohibition is the main reason for substance prices to be high enough to support a powerful structure of organized crime which permeates and corrupts our society.

Money continues to be the major force behind policy changes in the US and until we make corruption illegal (lobbying and campaign finance are out of control), our politicians and laws will serve corruption.

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Post by jasonlfunk »

blackflame wrote: post #76
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I look forward for the US to decriminalize all drugs. Is there evidence to prove that legal cocaine/meth/heroin being readily available for citizens would be good for society?

Does one person have the right to define what another does with their body in a country that prides itself on the freedom of the individual? If they commit crimes while on drugs, punish them for that.

I agree with this generally. Though making specific laws can be helpful. For example, drunk driving laws. The only reason drunk driving is illegal is because it causes you to be a reckless driver, which is also already illegal. But the drunk driving laws make explicit the direct link between the alcohol and the recklessness. Maybe there is a similar case to be made for other drugs as well.

Re: Magic Mushrooms Can Help Smokers Kick the Habit

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Post by rolltiide »

npo9 wrote: post #20

I think it’s clear that there is a push for magic mushrooms to follow the same path as Cannabis has. It’s very hard to fight the war on drugs (from a personal liberty standpoint) one drug at a time. From my political position it’s personally insulting that institutions such as the DEA and FDA tell me what I can and cannot put into my body. I’m an adult, I can either make those decisions for myself or hire experts for…

I’m going to tell my grandchildren that it wasnt about drugs, it was about states rights

Re: Magic Mushrooms Can Help Smokers Kick the Habit

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Post by g2ah5z »

happythen wrote: post #7

Awesome. So the last two years I have asked people if they know anyone with shrooms, I really wanted to quit dipping (Copenhagen tobacco), been dipping for 15 years, and heard this really works. No one I knew had any leads, not really shocked by that. But I quit dipping anyways, about 6 months ago. Moral of the story: sometimes your friends don't have illegal drugs and you have to suck it up and do right things the h…

They're extremely easy to grow yourself.
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