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The Myth of 10,000 hours

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Re: The Myth of 10,000 hours

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I haven't read the book, but what I heard about it second hand is that 10k hours is about mastery, not success. You can be a master without being successful and visa versa. But mastery sure improves your odds of success.

Of course 10k hours doesn't guarantee mastery either. I've put in that much on the golf course and still suck at it.

Re: The Myth of 10,000 hours

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post #2

I haven't read the book, but what I heard about it second hand is that 10k hours is about mastery, not success. You can be a master without being successful and visa versa. But mastery sure improves your odds of success. Of course 10k hours doesn't guarantee mastery either. I've put in that much on the golf course and still suck at it.

I read the book years ago in college, and that's exactly what 10k hours is about. The whole point of the book, as I recall, is that you can master anything, but being successful is a horse of an entirely different stripe

Re: The Myth of 10,000 hours

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For those who don’t know already, the “10,000 hours” to attain expert-level mastery in any field or endeavor is false. The study that Malcolm Gladwell cites by Anders Ericsson only applied to violin performance, which is a narrow field that has measurable and quantifiable performance levels and hundreds of years of teaching history.

I repeat this comment almost every time because 10k is both discouraging for the beginner and sometimes falsely encouraging for the “expert” who may have put in a lot of hours but in reality has been repeating mistakes and not really improving.

Re: The Myth of 10,000 hours

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post #2

I haven't read the book, but what I heard about it second hand is that 10k hours is about mastery, not success. You can be a master without being successful and visa versa. But mastery sure improves your odds of success. Of course 10k hours doesn't guarantee mastery either. I've put in that much on the golf course and still suck at it.

>You can be a master without being successful and visa versa.

There's an awful lot of skill-less, successful people out there, more than everyone would like, I'm sure.

Re: The Myth of 10,000 hours

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post #2

I haven't read the book, but what I heard about it second hand is that 10k hours is about mastery, not success. You can be a master without being successful and visa versa. But mastery sure improves your odds of success. Of course 10k hours doesn't guarantee mastery either. I've put in that much on the golf course and still suck at it.

IIRC, the book talks about "deliberate" practice being the key.

Re: The Myth of 10,000 hours

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I look at the hours and hardwork I put in as increasing my chances for success.

I wholeheartedly agree that success is mostly based on luck. I believe that the most successful business people were incredibly lucky in their journeys - but most also worked incredibly hard. If you work harder, you increase your chances at finding that luck.

If I gave up working hard a year ago, I would have never been found or funded. If I stopped working hard today, I won't find the next source of luck I need.

Life is about luck. I don't think it's right to shame others for wanting to work hard to create their own luck.

Re: The Myth of 10,000 hours

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post #2

I haven't read the book, but what I heard about it second hand is that 10k hours is about mastery, not success. You can be a master without being successful and visa versa. But mastery sure improves your odds of success. Of course 10k hours doesn't guarantee mastery either. I've put in that much on the golf course and still suck at it.

IIRC, the book talks about "deliberate" practice being the key.

Another way to think about it, is practicing at the edge of your skill / knowledge. If you can already do x, then you are at a good position to learn to do x + i (where i is an incremental improvement over x), by practicing x + i until you can do x + i. Rinse, repeat.
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