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Copenhagen is a brand of dip, not his location, if that is what you are referring to.
Ahh, didn't realise that. What's dip in this context? Rolling cigarettes or something different?
Chewing tobacco.
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Thanks. I'm assuming you're talking about the "psychedelics" episode but I noticed the one about dreams. The synopsis asks: "what’s the significance of dreams and What can they teach us?" From what I understand about dreams, no one has the answer to that question. It seems like they're going to make unfounded claims which makes me worried about their info. Do they tend to pose speculation as truth or are they avoidin…
Actually, they did a good job of asking the question without posing speculation as truth or quoting pseudoscience. They ask the question, talk about the history of how people have answered in the past, and show what kind of current research is investigating this topic.
Thanks for the follow-up. I'll definitely check it out!
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#83What's far more terrifying about this practice is that it's a method of reprogramming the way someone thinks. This is "Clockwork Orange" level experimentation.
Imagine this being used in concentration camps or interrogations. Getting people to a mental state where they have no choice but to confess or conform because their minds will no longer let them "touch the cigarette".
This is very scary.
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#84I think it’s clear that there is a push for magic mushrooms to follow the same path as Cannabis has. It’s very hard to fight the war on drugs (from a personal liberty standpoint) one drug at a time. From my political position it’s personally insulting that institutions such as the DEA and FDA tell me what I can and cannot put into my body. I’m an adult, I can either make those decisions for myself or hire experts for…
> From my political position it’s personally insulting that institutions such as the DEA and FDA tell me what I can and cannot put into my body. I'm of two minds about that. While I agree that I ought to have full autonomy over my own body, at the same time the state has a vested interest in not allowing its population to fall victim to life-destroying drugs, especially when those drugs target the most vulnerable mem…
But that begs the question that criminal prohibition of drugs like heroin actually reduces their use. If proponents of bans are responsible stewards of liberal society, they not only have to show that the problem is greater than the loss of liberty, they also have to show a causal link between denying that liberty by force and actually solving the problem.
Everybody agrees heroin is bad for the individual and for society, and that it should go away. What isn't clear to me is that putting users in jail and creating a hugely competitive profit incentive for violent gangs is actually effective towards that goal.
With heroin already illegal we see that a given portion of the population uses it anyway, so how much of the population do we think is not using it solely because it is banned? How does this compare to purely medical intervention?
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#86What's far more terrifying about this practice is that it's a method of reprogramming the way someone thinks. This is "Clockwork Orange" level experimentation. Imagine this being used in concentration camps or interrogations. Getting people to a mental state where they have no choice but to confess or conform because their minds will no longer let them "touch the cigarette". This is very scary.
The CIA tried this with MK ULTRA. It doesn't actually work and they abandoned it.
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#87What's far more terrifying about this practice is that it's a method of reprogramming the way someone thinks. This is "Clockwork Orange" level experimentation. Imagine this being used in concentration camps or interrogations. Getting people to a mental state where they have no choice but to confess or conform because their minds will no longer let them "touch the cigarette". This is very scary.
I totally agree. This is yet another Capitalists Play to sell a shit load of dangerous crap under the guise of healthcare. Yet another opioid-like crisis in its infancy. Just wait until this is available like pot and watch thousands of people who can't handle bare reality melt down and become burdens. (FWIW, I am experienced.)
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I have a feeling there is certain minority in any population that is quiet happy to live off the weaknesses of the rest. Whatever those weaknesses maybe. And they usually just migrate to the next weakness exploiting enterprise once one is shutdown. Just a feeling...maybe totally wrong.
If you eliminate the low hanging fruit- you can make it much harder to live off the weaknesses of the rest. The bad people in the cartels very well may just continue being bad people- but without the lucrative illegal drug trade they will no longer be the most rich and powerful people in their society.
Yeah makes sense. I guess there is some kind of Tree of Weakness that keeps evolving and needs constant pruning.
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> I look forward for the US to decriminalize all drugs. Is there evidence to prove that legal cocaine/meth/heroin being readily available for citizens would be good for society?
There is a difference between decriminalization vs making something readily available. They are not the same thing. Look at Portugal. They treated drugs as a social issue and are making great progress. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radic... https://time.com/longform/portugal-drug-use-decriminalizatio...
Am I wrong in feeling like comparing Portugal to the US is a bit different because Portugal doesn't have many South American drug cartels looking to make money/do business at such scale knocking at their borders?
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I have a feeling there is certain minority in any population that is quiet happy to live off the weaknesses of the rest. Whatever those weaknesses maybe. And they usually just migrate to the next weakness exploiting enterprise once one is shutdown. Just a feeling...maybe totally wrong.
The next weakness might not be "as weak" though. Sure, many might start doing something else, but it will not be as profitable or as easy (otherwise they would be doing it already). The world won't suddenly be perfect but it will be progress.
Good point