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Amazon’s Consumer Business Turned Off Final Oracle Database

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Re: Amazon’s Consumer Business Turned Off Final Oracle Database

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Post by rhinoceraptor »

alexis_fr wrote: post #293
umvi wrote: post #268

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What? How could that be legal? You can't say "Comparisons with competitors are not allowed" under a free market... right?

Atlassian Jira’s license, section 3.2: « (h) use the Software for competitive analysis or to build competitive products; (i) publicly disseminate information regarding the performance of the Software; or (j) encourage or assist any third party to do any of the foregoing. » https://www.atlassian.com/legal/software-license-agreement

Am I permitted to say that Jira is a bloated, festering slug of a web app?

Re: Amazon’s Consumer Business Turned Off Final Oracle Database

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Post by rhinoceraptor »

chrisseaton wrote: post #365
hyperman1 wrote: post #225

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But there is: Some software checks the name and version (major and minor) of the JVM vendor against a whitelist. Guess which One Rich Asshole company has this practice.

> One Rich Asshole company This is just personal abuse.

“Do not make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison!” - Bryan Cantrill

Re: Amazon’s Consumer Business Turned Off Final Oracle Database

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Post by james_s_tayler »

marcosdumay wrote: post #292
umvi wrote: post #268

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What? How could that be legal? You can't say "Comparisons with competitors are not allowed" under a free market... right?

Every non-free database management system has this clause.

Because Oracle started it back in the day when they got a negative review in a benchmark test.

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Post by rrdharan »

scarejunba wrote: post #333
Scramblejams wrote: post #324

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Can you elaborate? I'm kicking tires at the moment.

Fully MySQL/PostgreSQL-compatible DBMS with automatic failover across AZs so you get upgrades all the time, fully managed, without ever having downtime. It's really good. Access management can be through IAM. Like, Google Cloud SQL has 5 minutes of planned downtime every month by design, in comparison, or something.

I don’t believe this is accurate - Aurora has maintenance windows:

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/AuroraUserGuide...

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Post by thefreeman »

jjoonathan wrote: post #366
throwaway981211 wrote: post #362

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You might hate the console or CLI tools, but people at Amazon have real data telling them the CX is good enough and their capital would be better spent investing in other features. Source: I work there. :P

Yeah, we know you've got us locked in. The steaming piles served up in the console still taste like shit.

if you are using the console to manage your infrastructure you're doing it wrong

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Post by redblacktree »

thefreeman wrote: post #375
jjoonathan wrote: post #366

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Yeah, we know you've got us locked in. The steaming piles served up in the console still taste like shit.

if you are using the console to manage your infrastructure you're doing it wrong

It's fine for experimenting, but I agree in general.

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Post by fierarul »

There was recently a similar story about Amazon Fulfillment turning off the final Oracle Database: https://twitter.com/jdarrow/status/1111629087947132928

I wasn't aware they are doing this PR pieces on a department by department basis.

Are there any more remaining Amazon departments still doing this process?

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Post by throwaway981211 »

jjoonathan wrote: post #366
throwaway981211 wrote: post #362

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You might hate the console or CLI tools, but people at Amazon have real data telling them the CX is good enough and their capital would be better spent investing in other features. Source: I work there. :P

Yeah, we know you've got us locked in. The steaming piles served up in the console still taste like shit.

What’s your problem domain? You shouldn’t be locked into AWS. No offense, but sounds like bad design or more generally, you or your engineers don’t know what they’re doing.

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Post by reactor »

stock_toaster wrote: post #245
JacKTrocinskI wrote: post #226

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I have a hard time believing PostgreSQL performance is better than Oracle, can you give an example? How big is your database and how much did migrating cost you?

Think of how much you can spend on beefy hardware though, if you go with PostgreSQL, versus spending that money on Oracle licensing.

This, wish I could upvote this more.

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Post by jjeaff »

kbenson wrote: post #360
whack wrote: post #282

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> Amazon's predatory instincts are pointed inwards and downwards, towards employees and vendors... the crying software engineers and all other things I hear about them are about running an internally facing extraction economy... The squeeze is being put on those who draw a paycheck (or at least, a profit) from Amazon I know 10+ software engineers at Amazon, including people in their early 30s making close to half-a-m…

> However, there is a severe disconnect between the median Amazon employee's experience, and public perception. Not to get into whether Amazon employees have it good or bad, but using the software engineers to explain the median Amazon employee's experience seems a bit odd. Given that Amazon is widely reported to have well over half a million employees now, and I doubt the software engineers are anywhere near the maj…

Ya, when I read that comment, I thought of the warehouse workers. And I don't think many could argue that they have it so great.
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