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Building China's Comac C919 airplane involved a lot of hacking, report says

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Re: Building China's Comac C919 airplane involved a lot of hacking, report says

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A better comparison is with China’s state-led expansion abroad. While it lacks the EIC’s habit of violence, modern China shares both its strategic ambition and its commercial veneer. Asia is still grappling with that awkward mix, four centuries after the EIC’s motley crew sailed from the foggy Thames

https://www.economist.com/books-and-arts/2019/10/10/the-asto...

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I want it to be effective, which is why racial profiling is a bad idea. Crime rates correlate to poverty rather than race. If you design your system to target race you'll get lots of false positives in middle class black neighbourhoods and you'll ignore crime in poor white neighbourhoods. Racial profiling doesn't work.

This is just not true. The percentage of blacks in a population is a higher correlate for crime than income, poverty, or any other economic factors. This has been replicated many times. edit: Here are some studies. I would have put them in a reply but I'm being rate limited. Any one is sufficient on its own, but all are interesting. http://www.unz.com/article/race-and-crime-in-america/ http://2kpcwh2r7phz1nq4jj237m22…

> Any one is sufficient on its own, but all are interesting.

You use technical terms like "sufficient" and "replicated", as though you actually understood how science worked, but then link to a pile of crap scholarship published in third-rate journals by cranks and racists. It's annoying. And dangerous. Worse, you appear to be completely unaware of the distinction between correlation and causation, and what policy implications that has. Kindly get a clue.

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Yeah, with all the effort CrowdStrike took to divide and preface each section of the doc, mark footnotes, and all the formatting junk....it's a very visually "noisy" document, and I really don't want to read it. Whatever happened to double-spacing? Simply godawful UX.

They're padding the document heavily is why. That's also why they have a whole section on "we spent time tracking down the Jiangsu Bureau of the MSS's buildings", with the conclusion that they're the buildings with "Jiangsu Bureau of the MSS" written in big letters on the side.

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> Internment like in WW2? Probably not. I wasn't thinking in such drastically illegal terms to be candid... so: no. > Pretty sure the only viable way would be to enact laws to enforce extremely stringent eligibility requirements on foreign students/workers. I agree in principle. My thoughts are more along the lines of mass denials of any type of visa from [mainland] China for the purposes of study and/or work. If it…

> I agree in principle. My thoughts are more along the lines of mass denials of any type of visa from [mainland] China for the purposes of study and/or work. If it gets bad enough, total denial of all visas. (I don't feel a kinship with China that I do with Mexico/Latin-America and Canada.) No, that's dumb. The answer is to let the students in, maybe push them away from militarily sensitive areas of research, and imp…

> The answer is to let the students in [...]

How about no.

I'm tired of this bullshit meme. We've done this for 25 years and it has not made a god-damned difference except for causing a drain of intellectual property from the US to China.

The [privileged] students can suffer in China alongside the plebs for all I care. They are not in our national interest and no comment on HN will change that fact.

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Yeah, with all the effort CrowdStrike took to divide and preface each section of the doc, mark footnotes, and all the formatting junk....it's a very visually "noisy" document, and I really don't want to read it. Whatever happened to double-spacing? Simply godawful UX.

They're padding the document heavily is why. That's also why they have a whole section on "we spent time tracking down the Jiangsu Bureau of the MSS's buildings", with the conclusion that they're the buildings with "Jiangsu Bureau of the MSS" written in big letters on the side.

Hah! And to think, their client could have paid $50k for this report that I and a few undergrads could hammer out in a Thursday evening after some yerba mate.

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Given that China has struggled to produce a jet engine even for _military_ uses, which is in no way hindered by western regulatory frameworks, I think the burden of proof is on your side: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/chinas-air-force-has-...

I mean, they supposedly stole the full plans for everything related to the F22 and F35, including their engines. So, that doesn't really jive with your idea that it's lack of access to IP there. What's way more likely given all that is that Chinese companies so contract lots of the commercial engines' components, it's that putting it together and filli g in the gaps in a way that passes cert is the issue. The fighter…

> I mean, they supposedly stole the full plans for everything related to the F22 and F35, including their engines.

Even if that's true, plans will only tell you so much.

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Just for the sake of the argument: would US allow China to buy a controlling stake in Boeing?

Absolutely not. Regardless of the commercial side, Boeing makes too many military jets for that to happen.

I mean, for all fairness, one side is using non-market arguments to disallow acquisition, another side uses non-market ways to get access to this technology. Am I allowed to make such statement?

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> I imagine the ones that are outspoken against the CCP have a much harder time going abroad in the first place. Resistance against the CCP is a very tiny minority since there is a heavy brainwashing about how great everything CCP does since kids go to school at a young age - and they never get any other version of reality.

Disclaimer: I'm french and I'm living in China since my wife is Chinese. It's not only about brainwashing. 40 years ago 85% of the chinese population was below the poverty line. Today it's between 10% and 15%. Under the party governance, almost everyone saw their life standards go up substantially. A lot of the people studying abroad saw their family starting from the bottom and they can now afford to study in wester…

China is wealthy in spite of the CCP and its strict control, not because of it. And until they get private property rights figured it out, they could fail to stay wealthy.

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As shitty as America is, we are allowed to criticize our government. And boy do we have a lot of harsh things to say about all of them.

Try criticising corporations, especially the one you work for or the one the company you work for works with.

I hate Amazon.com. And Facebook. And Google! (Disclaimer: I still use Google search.)

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I haven't heard about any Chinese law that forces its citizens to comply with spying. But, if such a law exists, hiring Chinese nationals (or people who visit China often, for example to visit family) are a risk to secret high-tech projects. The same can be said for hiring Australians dealing with software. Australia has a law that forces its citizens to comply with requests by the government to hide backdoors in cod…

>>I haven't heard about any Chinese law that forces its citizens to comply with spying. But, if such a law exists, hiring Chinese nationals (or people who visit China often, for example to visit family) are a risk to secret high-tech projects. They don't need a specific law, quite a few might do it because of patriotism (just because he is is living in USA for 4 years, he's still connected to the motherland.) Simply…

They don’t even have to be Chinese. Anyone can be bribed or paid to be compromised.
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