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Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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without a single picture of any of the artifacts

That made me very frustrated! Here's the proper article, with actual pictures: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/2000-artifacts-pul...

Ok, we've changed to that from https://gen.medium.com/the-rescue-mission-to-save-civilizati.... Thanks!

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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The references to Vikings seem a bit gratuitous, tacked on to the end of sentences likely by an editor, when the scope of the article is about Ötzi and 3400-year old shoes. I’m sure they’ve found some stuff from 1000 years ago as well, but the really fascinating material here is far older. But Vikings!!

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Incognito gets you around this. I know it's beside the point. However incognito is the laziest of bypasses to a subscription-wall which tells me Medium aren't really behind it as a strategy anyway.

to reiterate what you said, since others are trying to be helpful and giving other workarounds: this is besides the point. for such a simple task as publishing static text, we've got what, yet another $7.99 (or whatever), a month fee? yes, medium provides some benefit to both authors and readers, and some may find it worth it, others won't. But it's static text. www.pacbell.net/~username, or Geocities may not have be…

It's $5. All of that money goes to the authors right now (VC is funding the operations). Plus in the case of this article, some additional money went to an editor and copy editor.

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Dudes, I'm not sure how to tell you this but if you want quality content without advertising, then spending money will be required at some point. Edit: I'm rate-limited so I can't answer below. Medium pays authors through the Partner Program which is a Flattr-like interaction-based model.

Does Medium pay the authors?

Yes. Currently 100% of the subscription revenue is shared out to the authors. Obviously, there's some venture capital paying for the rest of operations right now, and the revenue share will change. But yes, in general, the point of the subscription at Medium is to pay authors and editors to get better articles.

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Are there any good sci-fi novels about global warming thawing out some ancient alien artifacts?

Not precisely what you’re looking for with the global warming angle, but At The Mountains of Madness by Lovecraft and John Carpenter’s The Thing both feature aliens hidden under the ice.

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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without a single picture of any of the artifacts

That made me very frustrated! Here's the proper article, with actual pictures: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/2000-artifacts-pul...

That tunic is incredible! I can't believe it's around 1700 years old. I wonder how fast it would deteriorate once melted from the ice if it wasn't discovered.

The glaciers melting is a sad thing but at least this aspect of it is exciting.

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incognito gets you around this. I know it's beside the point. However incognito is the laziest of bypasses to a subscription-wall which tells me Medium aren't really behind it as a strategy anyway.

The real problem is that websites can still even tell whether or not you're in incognito mode.

Lately I've been using Forget Me for Chrome. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/forget-me-clean-hi... One click wipes cookies, history, and local and session storage for the current site. It works on the NYT and everything else I've tried so far.

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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The article suggests, that the climate change that we are now concerned about is responsible for the exposure of these artifacts. Actually, the periodic glaciation in the earth history is followed by warming periods, known as the interglacials, during which the glaciers retreat[1]. This melting of glaciers, and the concomitant rise is sea level has been going on for the last 20,000 years of the current interglacial. I feel like this article, perhaps slightly, misrepresents what is happening.

Ötzi[2] was discovered almost 40 years ago, before the accelerated warming due to current climate changes we are concerned about. He was likely uncovered by the inexorable melting of the glaciers that started during the current interglacial epoch, known as the Holocene, and which continues today. This melting explains the small, but constant sea level rise that has been going on for centuries. [3]

During the last glacial maximum, the Laurentide ice sheet covered millions of square kilometers including the area that is currently Canada and northern United States. This ice sheet was up to 4000 meters thick, carved out the Great Lakes, and covered most of North America until 20,000 years ago. [4]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interglacial#/media/File:Ice_A...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ötzi

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Holocene_sea_level_rise

[4] https://study.com/academy/lesson/laurentide-ice-sheet-facts-...

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