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Is "Amazon's Consumer Area" deliberately specific? That is, are they still using Oracle somewhere else? (Despite 75 petabytes being significant) Edit: I did see "some third-party applications are tightly bound to Oracle and were not migrated" . Curious if that's all that is left, globally, at AMZN.
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In 2001/2003, I led a small team at an agency that converted Kraftfoods and 50+ brands from 25+ ATG Dynamo web/app CMS servers + 20+ Oracle servers to .NET 1.0 CMS on 3 web servers, 3 app servers and 3 Microsoft SQL Servers. Even then Oracle tools were horrible for developers and still are. The only reason they had that many databases was Oracle's business is licensing, massive, expensive licenses, and their sales pu…
Oracle's new licensing requirement for Java is a bit threat to that platform. My company for technical reasons can't switch to OpenJVM so we're going to pay Oracle their new licensing money but we're not doing any greenfield Java development and are going to work towards moving our Java applications to another platform. That's an n=1 example but wouldn't be surprised if others end up migrating away, causing longterm…
The OpenJDK (not 'OpenJVM', that's not a thing) is literally 100% the same build as Oracle JDK now. There can't be any technical reason.
Is "Amazon's Consumer Area" deliberately specific? That is, are they still using Oracle somewhere else? (Despite 75 petabytes being significant) Edit: I did see "some third-party applications are tightly bound to Oracle and were not migrated" . Curious if that's all that is left, globally, at AMZN.
There are Oracle AWS offerings - https://aws.amazon.com/oracle/
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I’m interested in seeing how much they try to milk Java in the next 10 years. I can see them getting desperate enough to really bring the hammer down on licensing, killing off openjdk, and making life miserable for everyone in the process.
How? Its an Open source implementation of the java vm which they don't own.
They do own it. They own the copyright on the source code (all of it - even if Google or Intel wrote it). They own the trademarks. They own the specifications.
It should be noted that the email that Steve Yegge made famous was: 1) The birth of the service oriented architecture as a standard at Amazon 2) Took place long before AWS was used by Amazon's commercial business, and most software systems were monolithic, requiring mainframe-like dedicated hardware. 3) Was inspired due to the epic spaghetti monster known as FC Software, whose entire non-architecture revolved around…
The developer carrying it out still using 2015 MBP
The video feels like a big middle finger to Oracle. "stop oracle", and the URL https://aws.amazon.com/products/databases/freedom . Not that I'm complaining, Oracle deserves all the hate they get for their business practices. But associating AWS with "breaking free" is extremely ironic. It's just as much of a source for vendor lock in as Oracle. If you are not extremely careful/dedicated with your system design, you a…
It should be noted that the email that Steve Yegge made famous was: 1) The birth of the service oriented architecture as a standard at Amazon 2) Took place long before AWS was used by Amazon's commercial business, and most software systems were monolithic, requiring mainframe-like dedicated hardware. 3) Was inspired due to the epic spaghetti monster known as FC Software, whose entire non-architecture revolved around…
> The oracle database functioned as a database, but also as a high throughput queue, as well as a message passing platform. At high loads, different applications were hitting the same rows so frequently that the transaction errors alone could bring down an entire fulfillment center. Isn't that how everyone uses Oracle? I've seen exactly the same complains from developers at banks. Although building software around bi…