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Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Post by LMYahooTFY »

journalctl wrote: post #57
lallysingh wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The venue blocks access. Linking to an inaccessible article will get complaints. That's the appropriate response. If HN refused medium articles, this problem would solve itself. What value does medium provide to be worth losing HN as a source of traffic?

But it doesn’t, so why bring it up? Just ignore it and move on. I don’t understand why these conversations aren’t considered not germane and deleted, honestly.

Because that response works until you run out of products/services to move on to.

If half the interesting posts on HN are blocking access, it merits conversation and I'd argue a few "fuck off"s as well.

I'm not sorry that we don't delete conversation you consider boring.

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Post by fragmede »

Plyphon_ wrote: post #33
egdod wrote: post #29

> You've completed your member preview for this month, but when you sign up for a free Medium account, you get one more story. Fuck Medium.

Incognito gets you around this. I know it's beside the point. However incognito is the laziest of bypasses to a subscription-wall which tells me Medium aren't really behind it as a strategy anyway.

to reiterate what you said, since others are trying to be helpful and giving other workarounds:

this is besides the point. for such a simple task as publishing static text, we've got what, yet another $7.99 (or whatever), a month fee? yes, medium provides some benefit to both authors and readers, and some may find it worth it, others won't.

But it's static text. www.pacbell.net/~username, or Geocities may not have been so glamorous; capitalism has an odor all its own.

(inb4 I get ad-homonym'd for having personally benefitted from capitalism)

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Post by scarejunba »

LMYahooTFY wrote: post #61
journalctl wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it doesn’t, so why bring it up? Just ignore it and move on. I don’t understand why these conversations aren’t considered not germane and deleted, honestly.

Because that response works until you run out of products/services to move on to. If half the interesting posts on HN are blocking access, it merits conversation and I'd argue a few "fuck off"s as well. I'm not sorry that we don't delete conversation you consider boring.

Dudes, I'm not sure how to tell you this but if you want quality content without advertising, then spending money will be required at some point.

Edit: I'm rate-limited so I can't answer below. Medium pays authors through the Partner Program which is a Flattr-like interaction-based model.

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Post by tonystubblebine »

spinach wrote: post #51
tonystubblebine wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure it's obvious, but that article only exists because of medium's paywall. That subscription money goes to the author, and in the case of that publication, also editors. I can understand why someone might not want to be a medium customer yet, but I don't see how cursing them is warranted.

Early tech bros built the internet on the idea of everything should be free (even if at the same time they idolized billionaire CEOs) and now the idea of free is pervasive and things like journalism, a pillar of democracy is failing.

Exactly. I'm excited for the pendulum to swing back to pay. I don't understand why I'm being downvoted for that. Pay is so obviously better for the consumer, especially a tech consumer. I know not all of us who read HN are making FB salaries, but we all have pretty good earning potential. And so the ROI on paying $5 to read smarter, more curated, more accurate information seems like a no brainer.

I'm excited to exchange money to get back my time and to get smarter.

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Post by gdubs »

spinach wrote: post #51
tonystubblebine wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure it's obvious, but that article only exists because of medium's paywall. That subscription money goes to the author, and in the case of that publication, also editors. I can understand why someone might not want to be a medium customer yet, but I don't see how cursing them is warranted.

Early tech bros built the internet on the idea of everything should be free (even if at the same time they idolized billionaire CEOs) and now the idea of free is pervasive and things like journalism, a pillar of democracy is failing.

They were more “Deadheads” than “tech bros”.

Paywalls annoy me too. That said, for historical accuracy, the idea that content should be free of charge was hotly debated in the early days of the Internet and WWW. People like Jaron Lanier felt that online discourse would suffer if there wasn’t some nominal cost to, say, sending an email.

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Post by lallysingh »

scarejunba wrote: post #65
LMYahooTFY wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because that response works until you run out of products/services to move on to. If half the interesting posts on HN are blocking access, it merits conversation and I'd argue a few "fuck off"s as well. I'm not sorry that we don't delete conversation you consider boring.

Dudes, I'm not sure how to tell you this but if you want quality content without advertising, then spending money will be required at some point. Edit: I'm rate-limited so I can't answer below. Medium pays authors through the Partner Program which is a Flattr-like interaction-based model.

Does Medium pay the authors?

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Post by basch »

inetknght wrote: post #58
basch wrote: post #49

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uMatrix, can granularly block js, cookies, css etc on a per site and per domain (different elements loading into a site) basis. Blocking all cookies and javascript on medium has minimal to no negative impact on my experience.

I use uMatrix with a global deny of everything. When going to a site never previously visited uMatrix then puts up a big warning sign indicating that the entire site is blocked. That's handy to increase anti-phishing defense depth too.

I do the same, its annoying for a while, but worth it.

Now I just need a way to sync my settings between browsers, devices, phones and pc. I want one Dark Reader, uBlock, and uMatrix profile across firefox, chrome/brave/vivaldi, and phone.

Re: Ancient artifacts dislodged by climate change

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Post by egdod »

scarejunba wrote: post #65
LMYahooTFY wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because that response works until you run out of products/services to move on to. If half the interesting posts on HN are blocking access, it merits conversation and I'd argue a few "fuck off"s as well. I'm not sorry that we don't delete conversation you consider boring.

Dudes, I'm not sure how to tell you this but if you want quality content without advertising, then spending money will be required at some point. Edit: I'm rate-limited so I can't answer below. Medium pays authors through the Partner Program which is a Flattr-like interaction-based model.

We had plenty of good content (more, frankly) a decade or two ago when people just ran their own websites / blogs.
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