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Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by jandrese »

grawprog wrote: post #135
billh wrote: post #114

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This is simply not true. Milk is tested frequently and antibiotics are very rarely found [1]. Milk tankers that test positive for antibiotics are discarded and this milk never enters into the human consumption stream. 1. https://www.fda.gov/federal-state-local-tribal-and-territori...

https://bcdairy.ca/milk/articles/does-milk-contain-growth-ho... >While the administration of growth hormones known as BST or rBGH to dairy cows is allowed in the US, it is illegal in Canada and therefore not permitted for use with any dairy cows. https://www.healthcastle.com/what-you-should-know-about-milk... >In both Canada and the United States, all milk sold must be antibiotic-free, so the issue is more about pote…

You have to search fairly hard in the States to find a jug of rBGH milk anymore. Maybe the absolute bottom of the shelf stuff if you're "lucky". I assume that milk is going towards cheese production and related industries instead.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by jandrese »

StudentStuff wrote: post #97
atombender wrote: post #87

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All the milk that are sold at my grocery store, no matter the size, is ultra-pasteurized. It's not unusual at all, in my experience. They sell common East Coast brands like Organic Valley. (According to various sources I can find when googling this, there's no difference between ultra-pasteurized and UHT.)

Perhaps ultra-pasteurized is common on the East Coast? Its definitely not common for 1 gallon or half gallons in Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, Idaho or Michigan (in my experience).

UHT is only for warm shelf milk here in Virginia, and maybe for some of the really expensive organic stuff that's shipped all the way across the country.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by reaperducer »

kristofferR wrote: post #143
com2kid wrote: post #110

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This isn't even mentioning: 1. The chain of Brazilian bakeries around me 2. The fresh bread loaves baked at multiple larger Asian grocery stores. 3. The awesome Vietnamese bakery that sends out fresh baguettes daily. 4. The multiple dedicated Japanese bakeries making fresh bread. 5. The multiple dedicated Chinese bakeries making fresh loaves of bread. 6. The multiple local American bakeries that deliver fresh bread t…

I should have been clearer, with "good bread" I meant dark whole-grained bread, not white stuff like loaf and baguettes. Sorry, just my Norwegian bubble I guess.

Pumpernickel, and three types of rye are available daily. Plus random oaty things.

Remember that a huge part of the United States was settled by Germans.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by mcv »

4ad wrote: post #162
mogadsheu wrote: post #6

Former Norway resident here, 3yrs. Their lunch traditions are definitely basic, as they were not a wealthy country for hundreds of years before striking oil in the 60s. The point to remember is that while the fare is basic, the quality is typically very good. Their cheese is extra creamy and nutritious, as is the bread. The same goes for the milk. Many Europeans won’t drink the milk here in the States because the qua…

> Many Europeans won’t drink the milk here in the States because the quality tends to be much lower, due to feed/living conditions for livestock. Garbage in = garbage out. If you have the time and money, I found the opposite to be true. The average quality of products like bread and meat is much lower in the US than in Europe, but in the US I have the option of going to some high end shop or bakery and get stuff that…

> "The average quality of products like bread and meat is much lower in the US than in Europe, but in the US I have the option of going to some high end shop or bakery and get stuff that is much better than I can get here in Europe. In Europe things are extremely uniform."

Maybe you need to shop around a bit. There are also high-end shops and bakeries in Europe. Though maybe not in every town.

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Post by jfengel »

marvin wrote: post #251
tambarskjelve wrote: post #246

Another Norwegian here. If you don't find the matpakke boring enough, I am happy to tell you that we have an even more boring culinary tradition for breakfast, namely oatmeal. Preferably water boiled with a dab of butter. Crazy Norwegians might use milk instead of water, and sprinkle a teaspoon of sugar on top. On the weekend, it is allowed to use a little cinnamon as well, but only sparingly.

You boil yours? I take my oatmeal raw, with milk and a light sprinkling of sugar.

In Norway, the oatmeal is often steel-cut oats, which you really can't eat raw. If you're eating them with milk, you've probably got rolled oats, which are already cooked.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by mcv »

Aenyn wrote: post #303
laut wrote: post #47

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In Denmark you can get milk at the grocery store that was inside the cow less than 24 hours ago. Ultra High Temperature pasteurization is not really normal in Denmark, but I think it is in Germany.

I miss UHT and homogenized milk since I moved to Denmark :( I loved being able to buy a six pack of milk bottles back in France and keep it in a closet for weeks, now I can barely drink a carton of milk before it goes bad.

While most milk in Netherland is pateurised and therefore keeps only a few days, there's also sterilised milks which keeps for months. Doesn't taste as good, though.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by librish »

Chathamization wrote: post #309
librish wrote: post #189

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Around 500kcals sounds about right. I wouldn't really call a single QP a big meal. I think your comparison to other subs is off thought. Depending on the meat of the sub you might be reducing protein, but the Norwegian sandwich definitely has less fat (less cheese, less calories in the butter than mayo or other sauce, less fatty meats). Usually the bread preferred also has more whole grain and fibers than what's used…

> the Norwegian sandwich definitely has less fat (less cheese, less calories in the butter than mayo or other sauce, less fatty meats) Butter is much higher in saturated fat and calories than mayo, and you're putting butter on 3 slices whereas you usually only but mayo on one (per the article). One tablespoon of butter is 100 calories and 7 grams of saturated fat, one tablespoon of mayo has 60 calories and 1.5 grams…

Having eaten both the quantities really are that different. A typical American sub has much more sauce than a Norwegian sandwich has butter. Kalle's is so flavorful that you don't need a lot of it, but I agree it would be the most unhealthy choice of the ones listed.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by rrobukef »

jplayer01 wrote: post #218
azinman2 wrote: post #157

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It’s really 2-3 open face sandwiches, each being one slice of bread, butter, and exactly one topping of meat or cheese. No condiments. Rarely any veg or any extra flavor. And that’s it. If this isn’t a boring lunch, I have no idea what is.

> If this isn’t a boring lunch The qualification seems unnecessary to me. It's lunch (well, to me, it's breakfast). It's no wonder people are depressed eating it when everybody keeps calling it boring. It's bread with a topping. It's fine. It tastes good. Does every meal need to be akin to a sushi buffet?

Sushi is rice with a topping. It's boring too.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by azinman2 »

rrobukef wrote: post #339
jplayer01 wrote: post #218

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> If this isn’t a boring lunch The qualification seems unnecessary to me. It's lunch (well, to me, it's breakfast). It's no wonder people are depressed eating it when everybody keeps calling it boring. It's bread with a topping. It's fine. It tastes good. Does every meal need to be akin to a sushi buffet?

Sushi is rice with a topping. It's boring too.

Flavored rice, usually with wasabi and sea weed. The fish is also fresh, not processed.
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