Yes.
My wife's former employer spent a certain amount of effort tracking down counterfeits and having them removed from Amazon, or anyway trying to have them removed.
Counterfeit books “shipped and sold by Amazon”?
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or you could just strike a match underneath the detector, which is what the manual for my detector says to do. Set it off after a few seconds.
Didn't know a burning match emits enough carbon monoxide to trigger the alarm. I always thought that with ample supply of oxygen, burning carbon compounds releases primarily carbon dioxide.
That yellow flame should tell you all you need to know about how complete the combustion is. It's yellow because there isn't enough oxygen in the mix, which is generating little particles of soot, which are glowing yellow. Not enough oxygen also means carbon monoxide.
Re: Counterfeit books “shipped and sold by Amazon”?
#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
It might be the result of a clever trick by Amazon, but it makes Amazon directly responsible for selling fakes. Even without this, Amazon should be taking more responsibility to fight counterfeit products, but with this, they're making themselves directly responsible, and I don't see how they're not criminally liable now. Instead of hoping for Amazon to make this slightly less bad, I think legal action is called for…
> I don't see how they're not criminally liable now. Amazon's protection against state action has always been that it offers a good enough return experience that people will turn to it rather than public authorities with problems. It's not a legal shield so much as a practical one, though.
In most civilized countries shipping counterfeit items knowingly is Illegal as F. Return policy ranges from useless to encouraging to break the law.
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't see how they're not criminally liable now. Amazon's protection against state action has always been that it offers a good enough return experience that people will turn to it rather than public authorities with problems. It's not a legal shield so much as a practical one, though.
What is a "good enough" return experience? When I've tried to use it, I have to pay money and my own time to organise and ship things back to them. I only get that money back if they decide I was right to return the item. I can only return the item in a very short window after it is purchased. People seem to talk about amazon as if it has some unprecedented customer service and that is why it's so successful. But thi…
> What is a "good enough" return experience? When I've tried to use it, I have to pay money and my own time to organise and ship things back to them. I only get that money back if they decide I was right to return the item. I can only return the item in a very short window after it is purchased.
I feel like you didn't returns something with Amazon, but a third party seller instead.
Amazon will ship you the replacement as soon as you confirm and give you a return shipping label to print and stick on the package, which you can bring to your local post office. The process is quite painless.
> I can only return the item in a very short window after it is purchased.
Their return windows is 30 days for most stuff, which is good enough.
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#295Re: Counterfeit books “shipped and sold by Amazon”?
#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who hates this practice, including store-brand labels (ie Sam's Choice)... At this point I'll happily take the Walmart-specific version over the risk of an Amazon supplied product.
As someone who buys 90% Kroger-brand stuff I'm wondering what you have against store-brands? Don't get me wrong -- I'm with you that co-branded products like "Only at Target" KitchenAid are pretty much trash but store-brand stuff doesn't really seem that different to me than any other brand on the shelf. Kroger brand pretzels are dope, their Oreo clone is garbage, c'est la vie.
I think you kinda answered it yourself. For an unknown product, the store brand is a crapshoot.
The store has an incentive to stock it's own brand product beyond what the incentive for competitors is. Ie, they are going to carry a competitor either because it's a good product that sells, or the competitor has paid for shelf space (and is betting it's own money that it's product is good).
Neither of these necessarily applies to a store brand. So even if it's between store brand and unknown 3rd party competitor, I'll go 3rd party first.
That said, there are some store brand products that, having tested, I enjoy. It's just usually not worth the 25¢ to me for the gamble.
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#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who buys 90% Kroger-brand stuff I'm wondering what you have against store-brands? Don't get me wrong -- I'm with you that co-branded products like "Only at Target" KitchenAid are pretty much trash but store-brand stuff doesn't really seem that different to me than any other brand on the shelf. Kroger brand pretzels are dope, their Oreo clone is garbage, c'est la vie.
I think you kinda answered it yourself. For an unknown product, the store brand is a crapshoot. The store has an incentive to stock it's own brand product beyond what the incentive for competitors is. Ie, they are going to carry a competitor either because it's a good product that sells, or the competitor has paid for shelf space (and is betting it's own money that it's product is good). Neither of these necessarily…
Hmmm, interesting. My philosophy has pretty much always been to work my way up on price until it's acceptable. If store brand cookies turn out bad then I've only been hurt once and go back to the brand name -- but if I find a gem it means I'm saving money for a long while.
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Would you really trust your life to that?
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Oh you know I was wondering why you thought he was being sarcastic. But I just now realized you think I was being sarcastic.
No, I'm not, that's the system I have. There are as many relevant sensors on each RPi as make sense. For example in the bathroom I monitor methane. I obviously monitor humidity and temperature at all stations since having those values is useful to adjust the accuracy of the measurements from several of the other sensors.
It works well, I have logs that allow me to understand effects of people being in places and various cycles during the day, which I find interesting.
I trust it much more than Nest or whatever other crap is out their commercially which is on the most part designed by half-wits, marketed and maintained by sociopaths, and definitely is nothing one would want to trust their life to, or even trust it'll still be working 6 months from now after the company that took your money grows bored with the project and shuts their servers down. Who wants to share this sort of private and intimate household information with some sociopathic corporation anyway. IoT only makes sense when you have complete control of the servers your stuff communicates with, and full access to the software stack.
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#299https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B452QQS/ Check this product out. It's made in a chinese guy's garage in northern california using equipment he imported in 2014. It doesn't have legitimate GMP or FDA licensing. This is the kind of problem we are talking about. And the issue is worse than it appears, just as toast0 mentioned, because the same exact product with same product page and AMAZON barcode, NO UPC, is also…
I'm curious, how do you know details about the operations of the seller for the listing? I couldn't find anything with a cursory Google search.
I do a lot of "forensics" style spidering through different information sources, databases, port manifests, registered businesses, etc.
I have long since submitted the evidence involved to the FTC and FCC. They have failed to act on the information. I have stalked down the people who run listings on amazon and contacted them to verify their product is legitimate.
I could not do so with this product, and I assure you, even precursory digging will fully inform you. There is no return policy, the phone number on the product goes to a dead answering system, etc.
https://belivestore.com/pages/about >fda registered facility Contacting FDA indicated they had no knowledge of this. >GMP facility GMP authority I contacted had no knowledge. >search TESS for trademark muliple trademarks found to address in california >search opencorporates for "belive llc"
(California (US), 22 Sep 2017- , 21800 OXNARD ST STE 250 WOODLAND HILLS CA 91367) United States flag inactive BELIVE LLC (California (US), 13 Mar 2017- , 4846 SCENIC AVE LIVERMORE CA 94551) Trademarks: MOON BURN FUSION BURNWord Mark MOON BURN Goods and Services IC 005. US 006 018 044 046 051 052. G & S: Dietary supplements. FIRST USE: 20170101. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20170101 Standard Characters Claimed Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK Serial Number 87591965 Filing Date August 31, 2017 Current Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Published for Opposition January 16, 2018 Registration Number 5437416 Registration Date April 3, 2018 Owner (REGISTRANT) BeLive LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY CALIFORNIA 4846 Scenic Ave Livermore CALIFORNIA 94551https://businesssearch.sos.ca.gov/Document/RetrievePDF?Id=04...
business owner is weizhen li, goes by john li on facebook. I cant link his social media as i believe that would be a breach of privacy.
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#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
You seem to have missed the part about the investments they have made for the same, perhaps doing themselves what you suggest.
The investments they've done for something that is their resposibility in the first place. If I go to a restaurant and the food is rancid, I wouldn't be appeased when the owner tells me "we've made investments to stop the food from going bad, we even bought a refrigerator!".
The analogy is not valid.
The marketplace at Amazon makes it a (large scale) mall, or a food court for your analogy, not the shop that is selling. If the food from a restaurant at a mall comes out bad, would you blame the restaurant, or the mall?