It almost seems that theres a business opportunity to start a site where independent creators can publish content deemed not mainstream enough for the major networks.
Oh wait..
YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Update: 10% of 1B is 100M. 100M tickets in how much time? Let's say a year. And it takes on average 5 minutes to respond to 1. That is 500M minutes. So you need a team of ~1500 people to respond to 100M tickets in a year. Not that bad eh.
500M minutes is 8.3M hr. Full-time is 2080hr/y, so ~4,000 people. Separately, your time estimates are much too low.
Thanks for correcting.
True that 5 mins per ticket is too less. But I don't think any paid tech service has 1B customers. (users yes, customers, I don't think so).
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#143Last time this came up there was a tongue-in-cheek suggestion all the penetration testers move to pornhub.
It's not as crazy an idea as it may sound and there's supposedly a lot of gun related stuff there right now. I'm surprised as to why PornHub haven't already launched a re-skin for regular content. They've clearly got the infrastructure and knowhow to make it work.
>I'm surprised as to why PornHub haven't already launched a re-skin for regular content. They've clearly got the infrastructure and knowhow to make it work.
Why should they? Porn is where the money is - the mainstream content which is seeking refuge with them is difficult to monetize (otherwise, it would still be on Youtube making moeny) and has an audience that's already willing to move to Pornhub.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Maybe it's the wrong mindset, but imo compensation is precisely why the internet stopped being like that. When people are doing things for free, there is generally a maximum to the amount of effort they will put into things. It's the other way around. When there is no compensation, people do stuff for fun, out of love, and not for optimisation, ROI, DAU/MAU, etc. "Back in the days" - pre-dot-com - the website was p…
My experience is people generally do different things when it's out of interest. More going deep on whatever their passion is, less of everything else. So you get ugly sites with interesting essays, or beautiful data visualization but no text for search engines to use to know to send people to the page. I really liked https://srconstantin.wordpress.com/2019/07/20/the-costs-of-r... on this. I also think (though don't…
> I also think (though don't have the numbers) that there are many more hobby sites now than there were in, say, 1995, because the whole web is so much bigger.
I severely doubt this. 1995-2004(?), essentially pre-myspace, was an era when many of us had a homepage as a hobby; some went into blogging as well, but still on their own site.
Compare it to the web today: everyone is posting content* on silos and a most don't event bother thinking of a website. Convenience, they say, but reality is that everyone thinks they might be able to make a living out of that hobby.
Let me quote a comment from this very site: "It's a shame to ruin a perfectly good hobby by making it a job." - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19728367
* "content" in the context of silos is a tricky thing to be honest. When was the last time you saw real, true, honest content, without an agenda, without cat videos, without selfies, on a modern content silo? When I say modern, I mean Facebook, Twitter, Instagram; WordPress and Tumblr are different, being more like providers of websites.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see this sentiment mentioned often, but all the things we could do back in the day are not only still possible, they are actually still being done by people out there. What has happened is that, whereas 10 years ago we would individually spend the time to track down these communities and niche sites, nowadays we can't be bothered and just go to Youtube or Facebook. That's on us though. Fortunately, in my experience…
How would you track them down today? In the old days, you typed "knitting" into Lycos and you got this wonderfully weird site of someone for whom knitting was a passion, along with a webring full of similar sites. Today, everything is hyper-optimized SEO for maximum ad views run by a huge faceless corporation. How do you discover anything good in that noise? My only hope at this point is Neocities.
Knitters have their own website/culture. It’s got it’s own message boards and social networking. Its calles ravelry.
It’s a good model for other craft sites.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, but having been there at the time, and looking at technical requirments ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21256674 ), I'm calling bogus. Online downloadable audio was barely tractable in 1999 or earlier, let alone streaming video. What was this golden age, what were the sites, and what was the usage? Streaming video is almost wholly 2004 and later, generally years later.
Text. With pictures. You know, like books. Which you can actually use while, say, fixing something, unlike a video which you need to pause, rewind, watch again, while balancing pieces of a torn down laptop on your hands.
Text with pictures suffer horribly from link rot when the pictures aren't on the same site (for example forum threads), with all the image hosting services that had closed in the last decade (or even dropbox stopping to serve as image host, even for paying clients)
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#147This is the consequence of monopolies. Before YouTube gobbled up the world there were great, niche video sites ran by fans of the coolest things. They are mostly gone now. It is sad. The web really used to be an adventure. I miss that part of the internet. You felt like you found these secret underground worlds where people were really into something. Now it’s different. Maybe what we have now it what is needed for c…
More people are now on the internet, and it is getting worse.
Inevitable TBH.
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#148On the one hand I really hate censorship.
On the other hand I feel like the sort of people that watch videos instead of reading documentation tend to be the kind that would misuse this stuff.
Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos
#149This is the consequence of monopolies. Before YouTube gobbled up the world there were great, niche video sites ran by fans of the coolest things. They are mostly gone now. It is sad. The web really used to be an adventure. I miss that part of the internet. You felt like you found these secret underground worlds where people were really into something. Now it’s different. Maybe what we have now it what is needed for c…
I see this sentiment mentioned often, but all the things we could do back in the day are not only still possible, they are actually still being done by people out there. What has happened is that, whereas 10 years ago we would individually spend the time to track down these communities and niche sites, nowadays we can't be bothered and just go to Youtube or Facebook. That's on us though. Fortunately, in my experience…
Okay, so what are some niche video sites you can recommend?
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see this sentiment mentioned often, but all the things we could do back in the day are not only still possible, they are actually still being done by people out there. What has happened is that, whereas 10 years ago we would individually spend the time to track down these communities and niche sites, nowadays we can't be bothered and just go to Youtube or Facebook. That's on us though. Fortunately, in my experience…
How would you track them down today? In the old days, you typed "knitting" into Lycos and you got this wonderfully weird site of someone for whom knitting was a passion, along with a webring full of similar sites. Today, everything is hyper-optimized SEO for maximum ad views run by a huge faceless corporation. How do you discover anything good in that noise? My only hope at this point is Neocities.
> How would you track them down today?
You go and find an appropriate subreddit.
Seriously. Subreddits are mini-Internets. Yes, centrally controlled and restricted to newsboard format (the latter is arguably a benefit), but they link out to interesting sites on the "main" Internet, and mostly haven't been poisoned by marketers just yet.
Not an elegant solution, and not a permanent solution - but it works for now.