Live data from Hacker News

The World’s Oldest Tree Lives in Sweden

swedesinthestates.com

31–37 of 37 posts

Re: The World’s Oldest Tree Lives in Sweden

#31

Would have been fun to see this tree in the film Midsommar, but it would have been terrible if it was damaged somehow (film makers aren't always they best at keeping nature intact, just look at the Maltese beach ecosystem which was destroyed during the filming of the GoT Dothraki wedding scenes).

Midsommar was recorded in Hungary in any case.

Is it any good, as a Swede I haven’t seen it. It’d be too funny seeing små grodorna portrayed as demonic again (see also: Minority Report)

Re: The World’s Oldest Tree Lives in Sweden

#33
post #3

I'd always thought that the Methuselah Tree in California was the oldest living tree. Apparently there's some disagreement, as Old Tjikko is a clonal tree, meaning the trunks come and go but the roots stay living underneath [1]. So if you're counting non-clone trees, Methuselah is the oldest. If you're counting clonal trees, some Quaking Aspens are believed to be between 80,000 and 1,000,000 years old [2]. [1] https:…

There's speculation that this some yew trees may be of similar age to Methuselah, notably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llangernyw_Yew & http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/7505...

Re: The World’s Oldest Tree Lives in Sweden

#34
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you visit Muir Woods north of SF, they refuse to tell you which tree is the tallest in the park. For good reason. People suck.

Well there's always a tallest tree in the forest, if the current tallest is cut down, another becomes the tallest, so there's no particular gain or loss over and above any other big tree.

Which is exactly the point: the park does not want to lose any big old tree, and singling out superlative individuals would make them targets in a way that the collective isn't. People out for the attention of attacking a superlative individual won't just fall back to any random tree.

Re: The World’s Oldest Tree Lives in Sweden

#35
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Midsommar was recorded in Hungary in any case.

Is it any good, as a Swede I haven’t seen it. It’d be too funny seeing små grodorna portrayed as demonic again (see also: Minority Report)

very beautifully filmed, but i couldn't finish it

Re: The World’s Oldest Tree Lives in Sweden

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also Prometheus, which was older than Methusaleh but was cut down by people looking for the old trees. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(tree)

When I had ambitions for general interest blogging, I had an article kicking around in my head on the dangers of being a superlative tree. Prometheus was the oldest tree, killed by a core sample. Tree of Ténéré, the most isolated tree in the world, felled by a drunk driver. [1] The Senator, the biggest cypress in the world was lit afire by an arsonist. [2] Kiidk'yaas, a rare golden spruce, was felled by someone prote…

My reading of the Wikipedia article re: Kiidk'yaas suggests that it was felled by someone protesting protesting logging.

Re: The World’s Oldest Tree Lives in Sweden

#37
post #19

I wonder what percentage of the world's trees have been carbon dated. I'd bet that effectively 0% of the world's trees have been carbon dated and that there remain older ones out there.

~0% of sampled trees does not necessarily mean ~0% certainty that we have found the oldest tree, since tree ages are correlated strongly with each other in local neighborhoods. We know where to look to find "oldish" trees and then narrow our search there. No need to sample trees from a new growth forest to be reasonably certain how old they are.

Suppose there's a thousand square kilometers of new growth forest. Is every tree in that area new? What if there's a tree that substantially predates the others and is now surrounded by new growth?

I'd agree that percentage tested isn't directly the same as likelihood we've found the oldest, but I do think there's a strong correlation.

Post reply on HN