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Re: Sleep Deprivation in NBA Players

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So do a lot of computer scientists. Are they making a milly one year out of school?

Supply and demand. Look it up.

Yup. We software engineers may be in demand, but it's nothing compared to China's demand for obedient propagandists who can dribble.

Re: Sleep Deprivation in NBA Players

#102

How is this even news worthy? There's so many things I could think of more important than the sleep routine of an luxury- accommodated group of athletes, who by greed decide to play 82 games per season. I believe it has been suggested to shorten the season but they neglect to do it because it means less money.

What's newsworthy is that apparently sleep deprivation and jet lag is what excuses their poor performance at the standard "criticize the government" play during their exhibition games in China

Re: Sleep Deprivation in NBA Players

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post #80

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There's nothing strange about an active recovery workout. Elite athletes do stuff like that all the time.

With trainers though? That seems like the kind of thing that an athlete would be assigned to do on their own. They were walking soooo slow too.

The trainer is an insignificant additional expense relative to the cost of employing an NBA player. Left on their own, elite athletes have a tendency to overdo their workouts because they're constantly competing against their own teammates and even their own performance yesterday. So the trainer is sometimes there just to impose limits.

Re: Sleep Deprivation in NBA Players

#104
> "Based on ... about 10,000 empirical scientific studies, the number of people who can survive on six hours of sleep or less without showing any impairment, rounded to a whole number ... is zero."

This statement made me think about reports of successful people wherein one supposed factor to their success was ability to "function" on less sleep (Marissa Mayer 4 hours, Jon Gruden 4 hours, Tom Ford 3 hours)

Re: Sleep Deprivation in NBA Players

#105

> "Based on ... about 10,000 empirical scientific studies, the number of people who can survive on six hours of sleep or less without showing any impairment, rounded to a whole number ... is zero." This statement made me think about reports of successful people wherein one supposed factor to their success was ability to "function" on less sleep (Marissa Mayer 4 hours, Jon Gruden 4 hours, Tom Ford 3 hours)

Until they can't. https://blogs.wsj.com/cmo/2014/06/23/how-marissa-mayer-fell-...

Re: Sleep Deprivation in NBA Players

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post #105

> "Based on ... about 10,000 empirical scientific studies, the number of people who can survive on six hours of sleep or less without showing any impairment, rounded to a whole number ... is zero." This statement made me think about reports of successful people wherein one supposed factor to their success was ability to "function" on less sleep (Marissa Mayer 4 hours, Jon Gruden 4 hours, Tom Ford 3 hours)

Until they can't. https://blogs.wsj.com/cmo/2014/06/23/how-marissa-mayer-fell-...

Agree. Not sustainable long term. Often wondered if such reports were exaggerated as well.

Re: Sleep Deprivation in NBA Players

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post #19

I’ve always wondered if the home team advantage is mostly caused by sleep deprivation. I know baseball stadiums have idiosyncrasies (home run distance varies), but I’m not aware if anything similar for basketball. The home team advantage is also pretty striking for win rates in the NBA: 58% of games are were won by the home team in the 2017-2018 season[0]. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_advantage

That is actually relatively low for the NBA. In 87-88, home teams won 67% of games. Baxter Holmes wrote another piece about two years ago about how Tinder, better sleep, and less drinking has eroded the home court advantage in the NBA. It was a great piece. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents18969358/tinde...

I don't particularly care about the NBA, but I followed your link anyways, and came across this gem:

> A recent study by WHOOP, a biometric device company with NBA clients, found what researchers called a "four-day hangover" in the post-drinking health metrics of 148 student-athletes. Heart rates were 16 percent higher after a night of drinking, and a measurement of heartbeat interval variation was 23 percent lower. According to the researchers, the effects are "a change of similar magnitude to that of aging 12 years."

Searching for "four day hangover" had this link at the top: https://www.whoop.com/the-locker/the-four-day-hangover/

Searching some more, this page has information about lab tests that provide evidence of chronic alcohol consumption: https://arupconsult.com/content/alcohol-abuse

I've observed how it takes some people days to fully recover from their drinking episodes. Thanks for the link.

Re: Sleep Deprivation in NBA Players

#109
post #37

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Their loss.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think we need to oversimplify and dumb down content, that has massively polluted the information ecology. I am just pointing out that most people wont take the time to read anything longer than a couple paragraphs in this particular context.

I think we're basically in agreement that it's a great shame when important information is not reaching the audience it deserves because of how it's presented. It's a neat parallel to the other thread in this topic about how the overall product might be improved by reducing the number of games played in a season.

It seems wild to me when people basically shoot themselves in the foot by going "tl;dr", but also if you're the author, it's up to you to present your message in a easily comprehensible form - nobody owes you their time and attention, it has to be earned.

(FWIW, this site doesn't allow downvoting direct replies to one's posts, so it wasn't me who downvoted (nor flagged) your sibling comment.)

Re: Sleep Deprivation in NBA Players

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post #7

Every year when I go to re:invent, Amazon's big conference in Las Vegas, I schedule nap time from 3pm to 5pm. When I'm there I meeting with lots of different people, from as early as 7am to as late (early?) as 1am, and sometimes I'm out till 3am or later. That nap is the only thing that makes it bearable. And I get mocked for it and I don't care. But sleep is no joke. I also do all the blue shift/night shift stuff on…

I don't know about others, everyone seems to like naps, but I feel completely wasted after midday sleep.
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