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Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by ctdonath »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #50
opdahl wrote: post #16

I'm a Norwegian, and where I work I have the option of eating a big warm lunch, but I very rarely do. I've noticed that eating a big lunch makes the following hour extremely unproductive, so for the last year I have made a matpakke with 3 slices of bread. Normal _pålegg_ is liver paste, cheese or peanut butter. I can easily go through my lunch in just few minutes, and even while working at the same time. My thought p…

No offense, but honestly your lunch sounds depressing as hell. I never understood this nordic lifestyle I saw in Scandinavia, Benelux and Northern Germany where people refuse to take a proper lunch break and just eat some random cold food in front of their computer for the sake of productivity for their employer. It's just depressing to see and unhealthy in the long term. In southern Europe(Austria) having a walk to…

I like my work. I'd rather eat a can of room temperature soup at my desk than interrupt a satisfyingly productive line of thought.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by svd4anything »

RandallBrown wrote: post #41
Retric wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US Milk also tends to be rather old by the time it reaches consumers, with ~2 weeks being surprisingly common. That has several implications which alter it’s taste. Of course this varies a lot based on the store and product.

Milk in the US is only a couple days old by the time it's in the grocery store. Unless most people in Europe are buying direct from the dairies, I can't imagine it's appreciably faster. Even then, I grew up having milk delivered direct from the dairy and definitely don't notice any difference between what I grew up with and what I typically buy in the grocery store. I would guess most of the flavor difference comes f…

> Milk in the US is only a couple days old by the time it's in the grocery store.

Same for me. It took me a bit to figure out what was going on with this discussion and then suddenly I realized ..

The US is not a single system and actually the quality does vary a lot. I remember being in Florida and thinking why is the milk so weird.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by reportingsjr »

atombender wrote: post #87
StudentStuff wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UHT Milk is not normal in the USA outside the grab & go bottle sizes (1/2 liter): https://www.fredmeyer.com/search?query=milk What is concerning is the high fructose corn syrup, kelp & skim milk blend that Darigold, Kroger and other US milk producers are advertising as Fat Free Half n Half: https://www.fredmeyer.com/search?query=fat%20free%20half&sea...

All the milk that are sold at my grocery store, no matter the size, is ultra-pasteurized. It's not unusual at all, in my experience. They sell common East Coast brands like Organic Valley. (According to various sources I can find when googling this, there's no difference between ultra-pasteurized and UHT.)

Many organic milks are UHT, but here in the Midwest most milk is not UHT.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

#104

Post by iikoolpp »

crazygringo wrote: post #92

Serious question: how is this enough calories for lunch? Assume you need 2,500 calories/day. Suppose you need a third of those at lunch, that's 830. (And given the traditional light continental breakfast, I'd expect an even larger lunch to compensate, so probably closer to 1,000.) A single sandwich with three layers of bread and three single layers of cheese or meat, can't be over 400 calories. I'd be starving and un…

> Assume you need 2,500 calories/day

Well, your first mistake is there

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by vadym909 »

Smithalicious wrote: post #85
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offense, but honestly your lunch sounds depressing as hell. I never understood this nordic lifestyle I saw in Scandinavia, Benelux and Northern Germany where people refuse to take a proper lunch break and just eat some random cold food in front of their computer for the sake of productivity for their employer. It's just depressing to see and unhealthy in the long term. In southern Europe(Austria) having a walk to…

This post is kind of offensive to me, as if we're all corporate slaves who skip """proper""" lunch for "productivity". Most of us eat that way even during weekends and holidays, so it's clearly not true. I wouldn't eat elaborate meals at lunchtime even if I never had to work at all. The last thing we need is people in other countries who have nothing to do with us telling us our food culture isn't "proper".

Many folks eat just 2 meals a day- a big heavy breakfast and a day's end dinner and it works fine for them. Lunch is just a silly ritual- if you get it - take it by all means but don't assume those who don't take it are suffering!

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by crazygringo »

iikoolpp wrote: post #104
crazygringo wrote: post #92

Serious question: how is this enough calories for lunch? Assume you need 2,500 calories/day. Suppose you need a third of those at lunch, that's 830. (And given the traditional light continental breakfast, I'd expect an even larger lunch to compensate, so probably closer to 1,000.) A single sandwich with three layers of bread and three single layers of cheese or meat, can't be over 400 calories. I'd be starving and un…

> Assume you need 2,500 calories/day Well, your first mistake is there

As a 6'1" male who goes to the gym regularly, I need 2,800 calories/day just to maintain my weight which is in the middle of the range for normal-weight BMI. (If I'm trying to build strength, I need a bit more.)

So enough with the snark, please.

2,500 cal/day is well-known as the average male guideline, while 2,000 cal/day is the average female guideline.

None of this changes my original point. Obviously nobody's healthily surviving on 1,200 calories/day.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

#107

Post by viridian »

atombender wrote: post #87
StudentStuff wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UHT Milk is not normal in the USA outside the grab & go bottle sizes (1/2 liter): https://www.fredmeyer.com/search?query=milk What is concerning is the high fructose corn syrup, kelp & skim milk blend that Darigold, Kroger and other US milk producers are advertising as Fat Free Half n Half: https://www.fredmeyer.com/search?query=fat%20free%20half&sea...

All the milk that are sold at my grocery store, no matter the size, is ultra-pasteurized. It's not unusual at all, in my experience. They sell common East Coast brands like Organic Valley. (According to various sources I can find when googling this, there's no difference between ultra-pasteurized and UHT.)

Backing up the other comments, this also isn't true from anything I've seen in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, or Pennsylvania. Seems like an issue specific to places where the demand for milk far outstrips the regional creamery supply.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

#108

Post by atombender »

viridian wrote: post #107
atombender wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the milk that are sold at my grocery store, no matter the size, is ultra-pasteurized. It's not unusual at all, in my experience. They sell common East Coast brands like Organic Valley. (According to various sources I can find when googling this, there's no difference between ultra-pasteurized and UHT.)

Backing up the other comments, this also isn't true from anything I've seen in Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, or Pennsylvania. Seems like an issue specific to places where the demand for milk far outstrips the regional creamery supply.

But "not normal" is not correct, either.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by com2kid »

reaperducer wrote: post #78
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I'm sure that depends on the store, many supermarkets I'm aware of -- including Safeway out here in Silicon Valley and Publix in Florida, where I grew up -- have in-store bakeries.

One of the chain supermarkets I go to has a big sign announcing the time the next batch of fresh bread will come out of the oven. So, yes, in spite of the typical HN US-bashing, fresh bread is available in America.

This isn't even mentioning:

1. The chain of Brazilian bakeries around me

2. The fresh bread loaves baked at multiple larger Asian grocery stores.

3. The awesome Vietnamese bakery that sends out fresh baguettes daily.

4. The multiple dedicated Japanese bakeries making fresh bread.

5. The multiple dedicated Chinese bakeries making fresh loaves of bread.

6. The multiple local American bakeries that deliver fresh bread to area grocery stores every day.

Actually, after making that list, I am kind of shocked at how large the market is for fresh baked bread...

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