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Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

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Post by m463 »

thrwn_frthr_awy wrote: post #7

This is the consequence of monopolies. Before YouTube gobbled up the world there were great, niche video sites ran by fans of the coolest things. They are mostly gone now. It is sad. The web really used to be an adventure. I miss that part of the internet. You felt like you found these secret underground worlds where people were really into something. Now it’s different. Maybe what we have now it what is needed for c…

At first I agreed with you - imagining walmart coming into town and bankrupting the mom-and-pop stores.

But can't folks still create their own websites and upload their own content for cheap?

domain name, virtual server, upload?

(don't know about monetization)

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

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Post by chii »

m463 wrote: post #21
thrwn_frthr_awy wrote: post #7

This is the consequence of monopolies. Before YouTube gobbled up the world there were great, niche video sites ran by fans of the coolest things. They are mostly gone now. It is sad. The web really used to be an adventure. I miss that part of the internet. You felt like you found these secret underground worlds where people were really into something. Now it’s different. Maybe what we have now it what is needed for c…

At first I agreed with you - imagining walmart coming into town and bankrupting the mom-and-pop stores. But can't folks still create their own websites and upload their own content for cheap? domain name, virtual server, upload? (don't know about monetization)

>But can't folks still create their own websites and upload their own content for cheap?

because of the network effect. Users end up flocking to the bigger platform and thus never even find out about the mon&pop store webpage with interesting content (not to mention the monetization is non-existent there).

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

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Post by nerfhammer »

thrwn_frthr_awy wrote: post #7

This is the consequence of monopolies. Before YouTube gobbled up the world there were great, niche video sites ran by fans of the coolest things. They are mostly gone now. It is sad. The web really used to be an adventure. I miss that part of the internet. You felt like you found these secret underground worlds where people were really into something. Now it’s different. Maybe what we have now it what is needed for c…

it's the discovery. anyone can still put a video somewhere else. it's just that it's pointless putting it somewhere where it's hard to discover if you also want monetization.

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

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Post by drdeadringer »

thrwn_frthr_awy wrote: post #7

This is the consequence of monopolies. Before YouTube gobbled up the world there were great, niche video sites ran by fans of the coolest things. They are mostly gone now. It is sad. The web really used to be an adventure. I miss that part of the internet. You felt like you found these secret underground worlds where people were really into something. Now it’s different. Maybe what we have now it what is needed for c…

> Before YouTube gobbled up the world there were great, niche video sites ran by fans of the coolest things

True Honest Question.

What were these sights? I was a teenage in the 1990s. I seriously and literally do not know and now I want to.

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

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Post by dbuder »

ggggtez wrote: post #13
diodesign wrote: post #11

Is this actually happening? Because it makes little sense when you consider that YouTube-parent Google is sponsoring security education videos. See this GCP-sponsored LiveOverflow video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-P9USG6kLs Maybe Google's killing off dodgy script kiddie vids, and leaving quality content up (and I mean the rest of LiverOverflow's videos et al, not just the paid-for stuff.)

I think this came up months ago and it was clarified it was just a mistake, not an actually policy. Google didn't actually ban educational videos, but people drew conclusions from Twitter and assumed the worst against reason. Reddit comments seems to confirm that this is just fear mongering at this point, and the OP should know by now what happened.

Google is an outright liar in many cases where it says it was AI or a mistake.

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

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Post by naikrovek »

drdeadringer wrote: post #24
thrwn_frthr_awy wrote: post #7

This is the consequence of monopolies. Before YouTube gobbled up the world there were great, niche video sites ran by fans of the coolest things. They are mostly gone now. It is sad. The web really used to be an adventure. I miss that part of the internet. You felt like you found these secret underground worlds where people were really into something. Now it’s different. Maybe what we have now it what is needed for c…

> Before YouTube gobbled up the world there were great, niche video sites ran by fans of the coolest things True Honest Question. What were these sights? I was a teenage in the 1990s. I seriously and literally do not know and now I want to.

Most were small sites that had a few videos about a specific topic, and whose videos were not optimized for search engines or anything other than the topic at hand.

Why do you hear the words "hey guys" or "you guys" in virtually every YouTube video today? Because it's an approved (and extremely boring, meaningless, and effortless) way to address your audience in a non-specific manner.

Internet videos had a lot more character before they were a source of income.

Of course that same income potential produces a lot of garbage 20 minute videos about the latest Nintendo Switch rumor, for example, and they also allow truly passionate people to make money creating the videos they would not have time to create without that income, so it's a mixed bag.

The internet in general 20 years ago had a lot more character overall before people figured out how to make it profitable.

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

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Post by otakucode »

iroeo0nd wrote: post #15
thrwn_frthr_awy wrote: post #7

This is the consequence of monopolies. Before YouTube gobbled up the world there were great, niche video sites ran by fans of the coolest things. They are mostly gone now. It is sad. The web really used to be an adventure. I miss that part of the internet. You felt like you found these secret underground worlds where people were really into something. Now it’s different. Maybe what we have now it what is needed for c…

Does YT have a quantifiable monopoly it abuses in an economic sense? Or of your attention? I find a lot of similar content as text & video not hosted on YT via DDG search The content is still out there. Google chose not to host it on their servers.

>Does YT have a quantifiable monopoly it abuses in an economic sense?

I really don't see how YouTube could be seen as anything but anticompetitive in many of its practices. Primarily, the fact that they have used and continue to use revenue driven by search from Google to maintain the tremendous infrastructure necessary to run YouTube. This means that anyone who wishes to compete with YouTube needs to be able to find investors (or pay themselves, but the number of people or organizations that could do that can be counted on one hand) willing to foot the bill to build billion-dollar infrastructure and then expect to run it at a profound loss, burning hundreds of millions of dollars a year for potentially a decade or more. Google is probably making some money on YouTube now, but they ran it at a mountainous loss for years and years for no reason other than suppressing the possibility of competition being developed. There also other smaller things, like the US government deciding to host all of their video content on YouTube without even considering following the legally-required bidding process - because there was no realistic competitor. That's pretty telling.

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

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Post by elznebelyk »

thrwn_frthr_awy wrote: post #7

This is the consequence of monopolies. Before YouTube gobbled up the world there were great, niche video sites ran by fans of the coolest things. They are mostly gone now. It is sad. The web really used to be an adventure. I miss that part of the internet. You felt like you found these secret underground worlds where people were really into something. Now it’s different. Maybe what we have now it what is needed for c…

Its still there, you just don't use it apparently. I have a pirate audio books site that gets tons of use.
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