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Sleep Deprivation in NBA Players

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> Studies show five hours of sleep per night over the course of a week lowers testosterone levels by an equivalent of 11 years of aging.

Do their testosterone levels recover after going back to a normal sleep schedule?

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It's also nowhere as physically demanding of a sport as basketball, where you're in constant movement 30+ minutes a game and during practice.

Yeah but try hitting a 100 mph fastball when you're feeling groggy

I'd honestly probably do better than I would normally since I wouldn't have the energy to overthink it lol.

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> Studies show five hours of sleep per night over the course of a week lowers testosterone levels by an equivalent of 11 years of aging. Do their testosterone levels recover after going back to a normal sleep schedule?

No, after a sleepless month, you might as well turn in your balls.

LOL, of course levels recover with some longitudinally decaying residual.

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> Studies show five hours of sleep per night over the course of a week lowers testosterone levels by an equivalent of 11 years of aging. Do their testosterone levels recover after going back to a normal sleep schedule?

I think the answer is mostly there in the fact they start the season at 88%. However, I'm sure there are cumulative effects on athletes who play for multiple seasons

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Every year when I go to re:invent, Amazon's big conference in Las Vegas, I schedule nap time from 3pm to 5pm. When I'm there I meeting with lots of different people, from as early as 7am to as late (early?) as 1am, and sometimes I'm out till 3am or later. That nap is the only thing that makes it bearable. And I get mocked for it and I don't care. But sleep is no joke. I also do all the blue shift/night shift stuff on…

Off topic a bit, but I have a small sony flatscreen tv in the house. The only one, but the kids use it all the time now. Does anyone know of a way to "night shift" those things? Kids are trying their best to get into university, so I get that late studying is necessary. I even get that some kids prefer to watch some things on the TV. (Youtube/Netflix documentaries etc.) I've replaced lights, etc. But the TV is still…

I haven't figured out how to do the TV. If I want to watch TV at night, I use my computer which run flu.x. Maybe if you have a spare old computer lying around you can hook it up to the TV and then install something on that to yellow-shift everything and then watch with that?

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I personally find the beds in the fanciest hotels the hardest to sleep in because everything is just so... fluffy .

I read some anecdotes about pro cycling teams during the Tour de France who would take doors off the hinges and put them under mattresses to firm them up. Privacy wasn't that big a concern since they were likely taking a floor or wing of a hotel for the night.

tbf, on the TdF by nature you're often staying in small and medium-sized towns with a huge mixed bag of accommodation choices. Air conditioning was often not even a given.

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Could one team gain a massive advantage by taking the sleep environment seriously and figuring out how to prevent sleep deprivation in players? A sort of hidden opportunity along the lines of the statistical metrics that revolutionized baseball.

My thought too. Just don't bother practicing as much, instead sleep more and throw some games strategically.

> and throw some games strategically

This would be fascinating and hilarious, especially if some of the hard core bettors got wind of the strategy.

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Seems like MLB (baseball) players have it even worse. 162 games in 6 months and that’s just the regular season. Games average longer and if extra innings can go 5+ hours and well past midnight.

Baseball players play series in various cities. They aren't there just for one game. Also, the sport is the least physically demanding of all major US sports. Players spend half their time sitting in dugouts, and about 80% of the rest just standing around waiting for the ball to be near them.

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Summary (from 4277 words): From a study of 18 players, testosterone levels fell from 88th percentile among males their age to 32nd percentile by midseason. Their grueling travel schedule, and not the exertion of on-court play, was to blame as non-player personnel also experienced similar declines. Studies show five hours of sleep per night over the course of a week lowers testosterone levels by an equivalent of 11 ye…

"Verbosity" also encourages empathy. The piece does a good job relaying the lengths several players go through to achieve the sleep they want. It also gives a good overview of what their travel schedule actually is. Let's not pretend that a three sentence summary contains the same amount of information as a long-form article. (And to counter the inevitable follow-up: yes, I know many people think there is too much hu…

Verbosity risks people never reading it at all.

Re: Sleep Deprivation in NBA Players

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Could one team gain a massive advantage by taking the sleep environment seriously and figuring out how to prevent sleep deprivation in players? A sort of hidden opportunity along the lines of the statistical metrics that revolutionized baseball.

My thought too. Just don't bother practicing as much, instead sleep more and throw some games strategically.

Teams kind of do this already. The Spurs were especially famous for “DNP - Old” (DNP = Did not play) at the end of the Duncan/Manu/Parker era. They would leave those guys at home for short road trips and/or back to backs. This all hit a tipping point when ABC was scheduled to air the Heat v Spurs and the Spurs left all their stars in San Antonio. IIRC the Spurs won or came close to doing so anyway. The league has then encouraged teams to sit players for rest at home (road fans, especially in the opposite conference only get one chance to see a guy play) and not for nationally televised games, but it is hard to make that a policy. In addition, due to conference imbalance, it is easier to rest stars in the East (see Raps and Kawhi last year) than it is in the West.
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