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Marc Benioff: We Need a New Capitalism

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Re: Marc Benioff: We Need a New Capitalism

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Sure it would be great for business leaders to change their ways, but the beauty of capitalism is that consumers can force businesses to change by their actions. Mark Zuckerberg could change Facebook overnight, but what incentive does he have? It’s still one of the most populous websites in the world. It’s easy to blame to rich and wealthy for the problems but they cannot force us to give them money. Every time I buy…

common folk don’t hate rich people (or the products they offered to get rich), they hate that rich people put a thumb, a palm, an elbow, and a foot on the scales in their favor. no one wants a handout, we want fairness.

Re: Marc Benioff: We Need a New Capitalism

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Sure it would be great for business leaders to change their ways, but the beauty of capitalism is that consumers can force businesses to change by their actions. Mark Zuckerberg could change Facebook overnight, but what incentive does he have? It’s still one of the most populous websites in the world. It’s easy to blame to rich and wealthy for the problems but they cannot force us to give them money. Every time I buy…

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Re: Marc Benioff: We Need a New Capitalism

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You are misunderstanding the Animal Farm. It was a criticism to the Soviet system and not socialism, Orwell literally fought for the anarchists in the Spanish Civil War.

How many do overs does socialism get? You can only say "that's not how REAL socialism is supposed to happen" so many times.

Re: Marc Benioff: We Need a New Capitalism

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There has never been a truly communist society, they were marketed as being socialist (nazi party) or as communist (lenin and mao). None of those were what they claimed to be at all, or at best a corrupted version of what they were supposed to be.

See: https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-7/cpml-ussr.htm

So there hasn't been any communism that turned into fascism, as there hasn't been any communist society. Most of the misconceptions about communism stem from post-WW2 propaganda, which boils down to "Capitalism = good, Communism = bad". (at least on western side of the iron curtain)

Re: Marc Benioff: We Need a New Capitalism

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You are misunderstanding the Animal Farm. It was a criticism to the Soviet system and not socialism, Orwell literally fought for the anarchists in the Spanish Civil War.

He also became very disillusioned with the left there.

Also took a bullet through the throat, which he rather miraculously survived.

Re: Marc Benioff: We Need a New Capitalism

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You are misunderstanding the Animal Farm. It was a criticism to the Soviet system and not socialism, Orwell literally fought for the anarchists in the Spanish Civil War.

Oh!

I read the book with conflicting views on communism/socialism/fascism in mind. Need to read in more detail. Thanks for the clarification.

Re: Marc Benioff: We Need a New Capitalism

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a rule of thumb, if you would like to not get downvoted for controversial statements, please source your assumptions.

Downvotes are fine with me; I don't put much stock in Internet points. I'm not trying to be persuasive in my single-sentence internet quip; if people care to learn more, they can do their own research.

You’re engaging in discussion and the downvotes aren’t disagreement here. They’re a sign your comment wasn’t contributing much of value.

Re: Marc Benioff: We Need a New Capitalism

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> Legislation to close loopholes in the Equal Pay Act have stalled in Congress for years, and today women still only make about 80 cents, on average, for every dollar earned by men. But congressional inaction does not absolve companies from their responsibility. Since learning that we were paying women less than men for equal work at Salesforce, we have spent $10.3 million to ensure equal pay; today we conduct annual…

So why is average pay for women across all positions less than men? It's not like Salesforce employees are doing heavy manual labor that skews itself towards hiring more men. Why aren't women being hired in positions at the same rates as men (at which point we can then address the issue of pay inequality for the same position?) If this is an issue of "we're not hiring women to the same higher paid positions as men", that is a problem separate from the problem of "we're not paying women equally to men in the same position."
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