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Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by mcv »

skrebbel wrote: post #126
threeseed wrote: post #20

1. Never once seen an issue with USB-C to HDMI or VGA connections. It doesn't even make any sense since MacBook Pro users with external, third party monitors are an extremely common combination. 2. I just downloaded Caret (Markdown editor) from their website and used Homebrew to install a CLI tool. Nothing has changed between the current OSX and previous ones. 3. If you have a tech support issue go into the Apple Sto…

> 5. If you resort to calling groups of people "condescending elitist hipster latte drinkers" then pretty sure you've lost the argument. As a condescending elitist hipster latte drinker on an ultralight convertible Lenovo Yoga + Windows 10, I feel excluded. The days that condescending elitist hipster latte drinkers only used Mac have long passed.

I guess the real condescending elitist hipster latte drinkers have moved on from Macs for some time now.

(I'm about to. Probably to a Thinkpad with some Linux.)

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by JustFinishedBSG »

llimllib wrote: post #240
nkoren wrote: post #190

Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

I was linux-only from 2002 to about 2009, on laptops, when I switched to Mac. I just set up a linux desktop for kicks the last couple of weeks, and it doesn't seem to me to be any better than it was a decade ago. * No way to adjust mouse scroll speed; official answer seems to be "don't want that". (Or install imwheel and change your mouse scroll to be equal to hitting the down button (!) which breaks other stuff) * T…

All your points seems like they are trivially solved by using another DE and distribution

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by computerex »

Aperocky wrote: post #252
nkoren wrote: post #190

Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

I’ve seen people use Dell XPS, but the huge bottom bezel and lack of macs touchpad threw me off. At this point, it seem like the only selling point of Apple being it’s touchpad. And even everyone knows it there doesn’t seem to be anyone catching up. I even managed to play Diablo 2 with just touchpad. I really don’t like the direction apple is heading though, starting with the pointless touchbar. I hope some day other…

The keyboard also feels like slamming your fingers against a wall. There is no travel distance, and a speck of dust can disable keys. There are also thermal issues with the chassis, and the lack of ports is also a hassle for developers.

I totally agree though that the touchpad experience is the best on Apple hardware + osx. Pure joy to use the Apple touchpad, really wish other manufacturers would take a leaf from Apple.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by exabrial »

kn100 wrote: post #211
nkoren wrote: post #190

Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

W.r.t your hidpi/non-hidpi issue - a 'proper' solution is slowly making its way out of the woodwork. Wayland apparently will allow us to solve this problem, but in the meantime here's my solution if it'll help you. I have a 4k dell xps 13 and a 2k monitor. I have this script set up to run on boot. https://gist.github.com/kn100/7193667d393fcf34d4d5c6c359a695... What this does is it forces your internal display to run…

The irony of this comment, given the content of the article.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by lostmsu »

jonwinstanley wrote: post #264
mattigames wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Opinions are a funny thing, I find MacOs vastly inferior to Windows, but I grew up with Windows so I'm biased that way; I'm betting you and people claiming 'the good old days of mac' are biased too.

I grew up using Windows and after 20 years switched to Mac and could not believe I had waited for so long. What parts of Windows do you prefer over MacOS?

Mostly hardware support. I need my NVidia GPUs until AMD is on par in TensorFlow performance.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

I enjoyed that. Thanks!

Well, I've hitched my wagon to the Apple packtrain, so I'm in for the ride.

I know a number of folks that work for Apple, and have confidence that they will get their stuff together, sooner or later.

I'm not sure they have managed the transition from "brink of failure upstart" to "big ol' blue chip" too well.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by erikbye »

darrmit wrote: post #195
nkoren wrote: post #190

Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

I came here to say the same. I do have more issues with macOS than I did, say, 5 years ago. However, the constant Windows update cycle is a nightmare and Linux still can't seem to get battery life and things like Bluetooth (audio inputs, etc.) quite right, so I'm left with hoping that Apple gets their stuff back together. Operating system stability just seems to have declined in general in the last 3-5 years.

Regarding Windows update cycle, you have the option of using LTSC, pausing updates for up to 35 days (yes, that's a built-in option now), or adjust update settings with GPO.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by posedge »

kn100 wrote: post #211
nkoren wrote: post #190

Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

W.r.t your hidpi/non-hidpi issue - a 'proper' solution is slowly making its way out of the woodwork. Wayland apparently will allow us to solve this problem, but in the meantime here's my solution if it'll help you. I have a 4k dell xps 13 and a 2k monitor. I have this script set up to run on boot. https://gist.github.com/kn100/7193667d393fcf34d4d5c6c359a695... What this does is it forces your internal display to run…

A couple of thoughts: * That's exactly the point. I don't want to give up on my 4k resolution, I specifically bought a laptop with high resolution. * I'm running Ubuntu on my Dell XPS 15. I solved the problem by scaling the external display (--scale 2x2 in xrandr), which also solves the problem but allows me to keep the 4k resolution on the built-in display. The only issue is, that select programs with nonstandard UI components (telegram client) break, everything else works like a charm * Thanks for the gist.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by drunner »

threeseed wrote: post #20

1. Never once seen an issue with USB-C to HDMI or VGA connections. It doesn't even make any sense since MacBook Pro users with external, third party monitors are an extremely common combination. 2. I just downloaded Caret (Markdown editor) from their website and used Homebrew to install a CLI tool. Nothing has changed between the current OSX and previous ones. 3. If you have a tech support issue go into the Apple Sto…

Literally every day I come to work I have to fiddle with my usb-c to hdmi connector (yes, I replaced it once).

Not to mention a bunch of other weird things, like relocking 10 seconds after I login occasionally and having to restart so my headphone jack works (2017 macbook pro).

I have relatively other complaints (keyboard, dongles) as a first time mac user, but weird stuff like the above does remind me of past linux experiences.

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