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Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by yreg »

Aeolun wrote: post #111
threeseed wrote: post #20

1. Never once seen an issue with USB-C to HDMI or VGA connections. It doesn't even make any sense since MacBook Pro users with external, third party monitors are an extremely common combination. 2. I just downloaded Caret (Markdown editor) from their website and used Homebrew to install a CLI tool. Nothing has changed between the current OSX and previous ones. 3. If you have a tech support issue go into the Apple Sto…

> 4. MacBook Pro has 4 USB-C ports. Maybe we should specify it to mean USB ports you can use for something without an adapter.

I for one very much prefer having usb-c ports to usb-a.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by cyberpunk »

Annatar wrote: post #187

"Linux 2000: There is only One True Way of installing software: using distro packages. If you do anything else you are bad and you should feel bad." That is absolutely correct and if one is installing software in any other way than packaging it into an OS package, one is hacking in the worst possible, amateurish way, with the added bonus that every experienced UNIX system administrator will hate one's guts come time…

So all those sysadmins installing oracle rdbms, websphere stuff or basically any other kind of enterprise software in the last 10 years are in the wrong profession?

I'd best tell them...

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by yreg »

ollie87 wrote: post #102
fabioborellini wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, Apple products should not be used in countries without an Apple Store. Sounds about right.

My nearest Apple Store (not a third party reseller - they're bloody useless) is a 3 hour round trip, and they never have any appointments any way. Granted that's still better support as non-business you'd get from one of the PC OEMs, but still crap.

>not a third party reseller - they're bloody useless

Where I'm from, all official Apple premium resellers do the job just fine.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by Grimm665 »

omegabravo wrote: post #139
dmitryminkovsky wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple support has always been great in my experience. They’re worth the money.

I dropped my personal Dell laptop (XPS13) and broke the screen. Dell sent a tech to my workplace and repaired it. No charge.

What's your point? That you have Dell Complete Care on a work machine you don't pay for?

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by willis936 »

judofyr wrote: post #200
clownpenis_fart wrote: post #185

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Linux 2000: writing a post summarizing Linux's issues will compel a point by point response in which a fanboy will either tell you "works for me" or "you're holding it wrong". Apple 2019: writing a post summarizing Apple products' issues will compel a point by point response in which a fanboy will either tell you "works for me" or "you're holding it wrong".

{any technology} {any year}: writing a post summarizing X products' issues will compel a point by point response in which a fanboy will either tell you "works for me" or "you're holding it wrong".

“And now for my next trick I shall pass a Turing test!”

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by mvaliente2001 »

In my experience, when we talk about software (hardware issues are always a thing on less used systems) Linux is the less black-box of these three OSes. If you have a non trivial problem with Windows or OSX OSes or apps, you're out of luck. With Linux, you have the tools to reach the root causes. Or at least, that used to be the case. New apps in Linux (particularly in Ubuntu) want to be as "friendly" as Windows or OSX, so they hide how things works, and put layer over layer of abstraction to the point where nothing is obvious anymore.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by computerex »

nkoren wrote: post #190

Meh. I bailed out of the Mac ecosystem last year, as my mid-2012 retina Macbook was finally getting too creaky, and the latest Mac hardware was a regression in many respects, while simultaneously utterly unaffordable. I'm now dual-booting Ubuntu/Windows 10 on a Dell XPS 15". What this experience has taught me is that computing in 2019 basically sucks. The problems with 2000-era Linux, as described in the article, are…

I started using linux in 2006 and I'd say linux is best its ever been. I used to have so many problems with my graphics drivers, now things usually work out of the box. I have not had any problems with multi-monitor support, although I have heard that HDPI screen experience still needs to be refined. I have a macbook pro running Mojave, and my gaming desktop runs Windows, my personal and favorite device runs Manjaro linux. I use all 3 main operating systems regularly and I'd say the linux story suits me and my needs best.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Post by csomar »

> Apple 2019: plugging an external projector will most likely not work. Fanboys are very vocal that this is the fault of projector manufacturers for not ensuring that their HW works with every Apple model.

I just setup a new Macbook Pro with Catalina (one day ago). Plugged three monitors. (Adapters were cheap knock-off from China). And it worked fine.

> Apple 2019: There is only True Way of installing software: using the Apple store. If you do anything else you are bad and you should feel bad.

I'd say the state of OSX is much better than Linux. Apple doesn't favor the Apple store as far as I'm aware but just signing apps. Apps in MacOS are simpler. They are a "single" file bundle (but the bundle is mostly non-exposed to the user). Uninstall is also simpler: you just remove the file from your applications folder.

In the longer run, this should make you trust your applications more although signed by apple doesn't mean it's not going to harm your setup. This might prevent average users from installing apps but more sophisticated ones will just go around it.

> Apple 2019: only a limited number of hardware works out of the box, even for popular devices like Android phones. Things either don't work at all, have reduced functionality, or kinda work but fail spuriously every now and then for no discernible reason.

I already have the whole laptop working from the get-go. That's already an advantage over Linux. I have my old printer working. Ledger worked out of the box with no drivers setup. Maybe I'm in the minority.

> Apple 2019: it is very difficult to find a laptop with more than two USB ports.

Macbook Pros come with 4 usb-c ports. That's more than enough considering that you can run multiple things on parallel on a single usb-c port.

> Apple 2019: fanboys will let you know in no uncertain terms that their system is the best and will take over all desktop computer usage. Said fanboys are condescending elitist hipster latte web site designers.

Stop talking to retarded people. Your quality of life will increase considerably.

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