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Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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post #3

"There is only True Way of installing software: using the Apple store. If you do anything else you are bad and you should feel bad." Isn't this sentiment a bit excessive. Homebrew is a perfectly safe and accepted way of installing software.

Not only that, there are and were multiple ways of installing software in Linux, both back in 2000 and now. Notoriously

  ./autogen.sh && make && make install
wasn't mentioned but installing via `rpm|dpkg|apt|yum` is?

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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TL;DR: A user is as frustrated with the Apple experience in 2019 as s/he was in 2000 with Linux. Then that user goes on to rant about some things that frustrate him/her, completely ignoring that one is FOSS and by no means a hardware manufacturer while the other is proprietary and primarily a hardware manufacturer.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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post #3

"There is only True Way of installing software: using the Apple store. If you do anything else you are bad and you should feel bad." Isn't this sentiment a bit excessive. Homebrew is a perfectly safe and accepted way of installing software.

True. It isn't possible to work on Mac without Homebrew. This is exaggeration but true for all practical purposes.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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post #8

I had the same issue with XCode update. Today, the download finally started, progress bar reached 100% then... XCode was not installed. Infuriating. Too bad Microsoft don’t allow easy access to LTSB and destroyed Windows UI. I feel the state of commercial OS declined sharply in the last decade.

Are you on Catalina or Mojave by chance?

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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I think though it got upvoted, I’m not sure this piece should be taken so seriously by the commenters.

It’s a play on taking some ballpark similiarities and making it seem like Apple 2019 and Linux 2000 are alike.

Some might enjoy it, some might not but this is not meant as serious technical piece.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Yes but no because it is 2019. It's simply a list of things that Linux sucked at and Apple is now dropping support as it no longer matters or things that affect a very small number of its users.

I remember when I tried to use Linux as my desktop operating system because it was up and coming to destroy Windows.

>External monitors

I don't know how you can have a problem with that. I have a 10gbp dongle from Amazon with HDMA, DVI and VGA output and works with no configuration. On Linux, I had to do some hacky stuff on the terminal to get a monitor to somewhat work(wouldn't turn off, would come back from sleep mode etc.)

>Software installation I don't feel any pressure to use Mac Appstore, in fact, I never use Mac Appstore. I also, in fact, know that people don't actually use Mac Appstore because here are many stories about Mac Appstore being useless for developers

>Hardware compatibility The given example is an Android phone. That's nothing like the given example of not being able to use your graphics card on Linux. The Android phone is not an integral part of the Mac user experience, it is a separate computer that you may choose not to use if that computer's vendors are not providing decent support.

>Technical support I would agree that Apple lacks on the phone support but Mac power users are much more polite on the internet than the grumpy Linux gurus out there that will not hesitate you to tell you how stupid you are for not being able to solve that basic problem. Also, there are Apple stores where you can hand over your computer and get it fixed.

>Advocate behaviour Oh god, this is no comparison. Lunux power users are the worst. They are out there to get you down, they are angry, unfriendly and arrogant. They are on a mission. Maybe they should seek help just as Linux Trovalds.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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Linux was something you downloaded for $0 and half the fun was tinkering on it.

Apple is a proprietary product that you pay a hefty premium compared to other available options for.

It's getting to the point where even the most full-throated Apple advocates have to admit that things are not going in the right direction, and normies are starting to bitch and moan about their Macbooks more than Windows laptops that cost half to a quarter. They really need to focus on quality, if they want to remain a viable platform.

Re: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000

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1. Never once seen an issue with USB-C to HDMI or VGA connections. It doesn't even make any sense since MacBook Pro users with external, third party monitors are an extremely common combination.

2. I just downloaded Caret (Markdown editor) from their website and used Homebrew to install a CLI tool. Nothing has changed between the current OSX and previous ones.

3. If you have a tech support issue go into the Apple Store and work with them 1-1. Very rare to find anything that someone in the store doesn't know.

4. MacBook Pro has 4 USB-C ports.

5. If you resort to calling groups of people "condescending elitist hipster latte drinkers" then pretty sure you've lost the argument.

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