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Apple Is Sending URLs to Tencent?

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Re: Apple Is Sending URLs to Tencent?

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Post by wtmt »

Apple has done a lot for privacy in its products and its public statements. But I believe that if it has to have a better impact and be trusted, it needs someone dedicated to privacy who will (ensure that it will) publish details of its products, apps and activities in an honest form in an accessible place (and updated more often than a once-a-year OS upgrade cycle). This kind of commitment to more transparency will help the company be trusted and also held up to questions. Said trust is already eroding with recent events. Apple shouldn’t be complacent and stick to its old ways.

Sadly, Apple also has a history of brushing things away or ignoring uncomfortable questions.

Re: Apple Is Sending URLs to Tencent?

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Post by saagarjha »

newshorts wrote: post #129
saagarjha wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not what it says.

Which one of these comments is right? You both can’t be.

> Before visiting a website, Safari may send information calculated from the website address to Google Safe Browsing and Tencent Safe Browsing to check if the website is fraudulent. These safe browsing providers may also log your IP address.

This is quite different from sending links.

Re: Apple Is Sending URLs to Tencent?

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Post by derefr »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #106
derefr wrote: post #74

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The GP poster is incorrect; the Region setting has nothing to do with setting the region code of the Language setting (each language+region pair being its own listing in Languages.) The Region you choose during initial device setup does determine your default Language region, but you can pick a different one while keeping the same Region. The Region setting in iOS is literally just the question "what Country [or Coun…

This is incorrect. en_GB doesn't mean you're in or from Great Britain. It means you want the device to show English as it is used in Great Britain, with extraneous "u"s and rearranged month and day. A user in the US can request that locale instead of en_US if that is the language they prefer. Locale is for localization of the interface, not for telling where you are from. See the Australian English example in https:/…

> This is incorrect. en_GB doesn't mean you're in or from Great Britain.

You misinterpreted. "Region" is a setting in iOS. But iOS "Region" has nothing to do with the "region" part of a locale. Setting your iOS "Region" to "Great Britain" and setting your "Locale" to "English (Great Britain)" are separate things. "Region" is just what iOS happens to call a completely distinct thing. If you like, to lessen your confusion, pretend it is called something different.

> Sending a user's data to Tencent based on a setting instead of based on their location is absolutely wrong.

You wouldn't want your phone to start sending data to Tencent as soon as you cross the border into China, right? And, vice-versa, you would expect a person from China, who thinks Tencent is a great brand, to not want to stop sending their data to Tencent just because they cross the border out of China, right?

Re: Apple Is Sending URLs to Tencent?

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Post by Jyaif »

It should be noted that Apple could very well proxy those requests to Google and Tencent to protect their customers' ip address, or even implement safe browsing on their own all together. The fact that they don't means that either they trust Google and Tencent, or that they don't care about privacy.

Re: Apple Is Sending URLs to Tencent?

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Post by taobility »

I think the audience in HN are crazy now. Why would you prefer Google than Tencent for same purpose of API? Should all Chinese scare that iPhone would send back all logs to California? Should they scare Tesla sent back all their driving data to US? If you don't trust anything from China, would you destroy any electronics Made In China, including your smartphones, laptop, TV etc, or even some food?

Re: Apple Is Sending URLs to Tencent?

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Post by gowld »

Gaelan wrote: post #82
eastendguy wrote: post #70

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> if [NSLocale.currentLocale.countryCode isEqualToString:@"CN"]: So even for US and EU based users the data is send to Tencent just because they enabled Chinese language support? Who programmed that?

iOS has separate region and language settings. Quick look at Apple docs suggests that this is the former.

No, it's the latter.

In NSLocale, "region" is a subtype of language, as in a regional dialect, not an independent dimension.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/foundation/nslocal...

https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Ma...

Re: Apple Is Sending URLs to Tencent?

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Post by eastendguy »

Aperocky wrote: post #84
eastendguy wrote: post #70

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> if [NSLocale.currentLocale.countryCode isEqualToString:@"CN"]: So even for US and EU based users the data is send to Tencent just because they enabled Chinese language support? Who programmed that?

Your data is sent to Google otherwise.

...which is what I strongly prefer (rule of law and all that). Of course, as others have said, on-device processing would be the best.
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