Why is this getting downvoted? I'm also interested in why this approach isn't taken.
A couple possibilities I can think of: * the list may be prohibitively large * it exposes to the bad actors exactly which of their scams is detected, so they can simply refine their methods until their sites don’t make “the list”
Can't the bad actors already check each of their sites individually by pretending to be a normal user?
Why is this getting downvoted? I'm also interested in why this approach isn't taken.
A couple possibilities I can think of: * the list may be prohibitively large * it exposes to the bad actors exactly which of their scams is detected, so they can simply refine their methods until their sites don’t make “the list”
Wouldn’t it be pretty easy for the bad actors to check the database anyway? I can’t imagine they would need to query often enough to hit any rate limits.
I'm curious if, as @thefalken brought up [0], this is illegal under the GDPR, given that it's a hidden opt out and should apply to EU citizenry with browser language set to Chinese.
A couple possibilities I can think of: * the list may be prohibitively large * it exposes to the bad actors exactly which of their scams is detected, so they can simply refine their methods until their sites don’t make “the list”
Bloom filters take care of the first. There will always be an arms race between attack and defense, so I'm not concerned about the second issue.
Bloom filters can give false positives, and to eliminate them, you'd need to send "data (hashed, anonymized, truncated, or otherwise)" to some entity that has the full list. That's exactly how Google's Safe Browsing API works.
Why is this getting downvoted? I'm also interested in why this approach isn't taken.
A couple possibilities I can think of: * the list may be prohibitively large * it exposes to the bad actors exactly which of their scams is detected, so they can simply refine their methods until their sites don’t make “the list”
Bad actors can also occasionally poll the safebrowsing API.
"Or they can essentially turn off Safe Browsing in China." The OP as well as the associated blog post[1] as well as the Apple-provided fine-print language do not make it clear to me that this "feature" is exclusively enabled for Chinese users (or, perhaps Chinese IPs). Could someone point to a source that confirms a US person, in the US, with a US-purchased iphone, would not have their browsing history transformed an…
If this source is to be believed, it's either going to Google or Tencent, but never both: https://twitter.com/eromang/status/1183422784082530304/photo... You can try yourself by going to one of the IOS Safe Browsing test pages on your phone, and when the warning pops up click "Show Details". It'll either say Google or Tencent on the warning message, which should let you know which one got chosen for you. https://test…
Great. I disabled safe browsing probably back when it first appeared on my iPhone 3G or 4 and this test confirms I’m still not sending urls to anyone whilst surfing on my iPhone 11. Nice job preserving these settings over countless device upgrades.
Default configuration of Chrome sends whatever you type, while you are typing it, in the location bar to Google. And Firefox can do that too, no idea what their default configuration is.
If I remember right, Firefox asks if you want to enable search suggestions right where they would appear, in the drop-down menu.
"Or they can essentially turn off Safe Browsing in China." The OP as well as the associated blog post[1] as well as the Apple-provided fine-print language do not make it clear to me that this "feature" is exclusively enabled for Chinese users (or, perhaps Chinese IPs). Could someone point to a source that confirms a US person, in the US, with a US-purchased iphone, would not have their browsing history transformed an…
If this source is to be believed, it's either going to Google or Tencent, but never both: https://twitter.com/eromang/status/1183422784082530304/photo... You can try yourself by going to one of the IOS Safe Browsing test pages on your phone, and when the warning pops up click "Show Details". It'll either say Google or Tencent on the warning message, which should let you know which one got chosen for you. https://test…
Interestingly, none of those links triggered a warning for me on my Mac…
I'm curious if, as @thefalken brought up [0], this is illegal under the GDPR, given that it's a hidden opt out and should apply to EU citizenry with browser language set to Chinese. [0] https://mobile.twitter.com/thefalken/status/1183445477645312...
The code appears to be used for fraud related purposes, meaning, to my understanding, Apple would likely argue it has a legitimate interest.
There’s a lot of legal language around this exception, but fraud is directly called out as a legitimate interest and means that the group controlling the data would not need to obtain user consent.