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That's just ridiculous.
have you forgotten the context of this thread ? Sugar water! One of the most advertised products of all time is sugar water. A useless product that makes people sick.
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They should also penalize gluten-containing products (and that's not just foods, e.g. shampoo may contain gluten too). Google zonulin, leaky gut, wheat belly and microbiome diet to find out why.
I get that you're being sarcastic, but can you expound on why? This isn't a ban on the sale of sugary drinks, just the advertisement of such.
TL/DR: besides being very bad for people with genuine celiac disease gluten (via zonulin) disregulates intestinal wall tight junctions in generally healthy people causing systematic inflammation, immune system problems (including weak immunity, allergies and autoimmune diseases) and metabolic syndrome (which means obesity and increased risk of diabetes as well as cardiovascular and endocrine diseases). Meanwhile, you can find gluten everywhere, not only in wheat products. Added gluten increases groceries and cosmetics shelf life.
If I were the one in charge I would order more thorough research and consider ban on advertisements for both sugary and gluten-rich foods + additional taxation on these goods sales.
In 2010-11 Singapore there used to be close to zero non-sugary drinks at convenience stores. Even all the teas used to be sweet. Lately they started carrying Japanese brands of non-sweetened tea but for a while if you wanted non-sweet tea you had to make it yourself. Which of course is probably better for the planet but if you're just out and about and wanted a drink from a 7/11 your options were pretty slim. The big…
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The site you are commenting on is effectively an Ad for yc. Should that be banned?
It's not "effectively" an ad for anything, it's a discussion forum. The fact that it also offers some publicity to YC's business is an additional aspect, but not the main one.
Usually I am for freedom to do anything you want as long as it does not impact other people. I am OK though with banning ads for sugary drinks because society pays a high medical cost for damage due to excess sugar addiction/use. This is like forcing motor cycle riders to wear helmets. BTW, I worked in Singapore for a while in 2016. Wonderful place! People just seemed happy there, from business people to laborers. If…
I like Singapore too and have lived there. Other countries could learn a lot from how Singapore is run but it has it's own worts. It's very dystopian in certain regards. It's a really good example of the trade off between freedom and safety.
Do you mean an example of being very far on the safety side, sacrificing freedom?
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Demand for food is not infinite (maybe the word you were looking for was inelastic?). And even if you don’t need ads to create demand for “food” that is a broad category with many competing products from many competing providers.
Interestingly the food industry has perverse incentives ... because humans have a maximum limit of food eaten during the day, big companies like Coca Cola can only grow by encouraging people to eat more. Since the more people eat, the more they spend on food, the more revenue generated. Therefore food companies are incentivized to produce highly palatable food that trick the brain into overeating. One common strategy…
“Whole Foods” does definitely run ads :—)
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I like Singapore too and have lived there. Other countries could learn a lot from how Singapore is run but it has it's own worts. It's very dystopian in certain regards. It's a really good example of the trade off between freedom and safety.
> It's a really good example of the trade off between freedom and safety. Do you mean an example of being very far on the safety side, sacrificing freedom?
In 2010-11 Singapore there used to be close to zero non-sugary drinks at convenience stores. Even all the teas used to be sweet. Lately they started carrying Japanese brands of non-sweetened tea but for a while if you wanted non-sweet tea you had to make it yourself. Which of course is probably better for the planet but if you're just out and about and wanted a drink from a 7/11 your options were pretty slim. The big…
I lived there for 5 years and my word it was tough to cook for yourself. Lucky I lived near a wet market, but otherwise your choices aren't greay
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Banning advertising is very different from banning the products themselves. The intent of advertising is to increase consumption so the impact is more widespread than personal choices. It’s in effect a form of meme pollution.
Almost any kind of change starts small and then builds up. I don't see anything to indicate that banning ads isn't just the first step in the process. Cigarettes have become more and more restricted over time and they also started with banning ads. If this doesn't alarm you yet, then will you be alarmed once they start banning ads for meat?
Cigarette commercials have been banned in the USA since 1969[1], but smoking is still allowed. So I cannot agree with your concerns. The advertising ban and taxation of unhealthy products that impose externalities on society have proved far more effective than outright bans.
> If this doesn't alarm you yet, then will you be alarmed once they start banning ads for meat?
No. I'd even welcome that. The same applies to sugar, alcohol, marijuana and salt: Don't ban them, tax them and maybe restrict advertising for them.
[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20080305012949/http://tobaccodoc...
Just ban all ads and be done with it. Really don't understand why it's taking us (collectively) so long to get there.
The site you are commenting on is effectively an Ad for yc. Should that be banned?
Banning all color in ads, all images/videos in ads, all ads in public (busses, billboards, etc), music in ads. Simply black and white text information (which is what YC adheres to).
Any step in that direction I support.