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In the rush to harvest body parts, death investigations have been upended

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Re: In the rush to harvest body parts, death investigations have been upended

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Post by sysbin »

big_chungus wrote: post #4
linuxftw wrote: post #2

> ground-up human skin is priced at $434. That product is one of those used in cosmetic surgery to plump lips and posteriors, fill cellulite dimples and enhance penises Disgusting.

Yeah, way to make people want to be organ donors. I'm willing to help someone who's got a bad kidney, but that? No way. There's a big difference in giving up some body parts to save someone's life once you don't need them and getting sent to the glue factory to feed someone's vanity.

Cosmetic surgery isn't necessarily a bad thing because you associate it with the word vanity. I hope you realize that appearance can be just as important psychologically in a life as a person that's needing surgery for other reasons.

Re: In the rush to harvest body parts, death investigations have been upended

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Post by BurningFrog »

mybodymychoice wrote: post #17
hanniabu wrote: post #15

How come you can only be an organ donor or nothing at all? Why is it not possible for your family to sell your body? I'm positive that it would flood the market with bodies and drive the value of your body down, but would at least still cover funeral services. It would be nice if you could even select what you want to donate and sell, such as sell your skin and donate your organs.

> Why is it not possible for your family to sell your body Because it's your body, not your families body. A law allowing the family to do this against your wishes will never pass.

That's not why.

You also not allowed to sell your own body.

Re: In the rush to harvest body parts, death investigations have been upended

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Post by frankharv »

The exemption for celebrities is especially troublesome. Who determines if you are a celebrity or media interest.

What if a celebrity had an organ donor citation on their drivers license. Do they still exempt them?

I might remove my organ donation status after reading this. It is a distortion of what I assumed occurred.

It would have been helpful to list the states where this is allowed. "California and many other states" is not very informative.

Harvesting body parts for profit is obscene.

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Post by sowbug »

mybodymychoice wrote: post #17
hanniabu wrote: post #15

How come you can only be an organ donor or nothing at all? Why is it not possible for your family to sell your body? I'm positive that it would flood the market with bodies and drive the value of your body down, but would at least still cover funeral services. It would be nice if you could even select what you want to donate and sell, such as sell your skin and donate your organs.

> Why is it not possible for your family to sell your body Because it's your body, not your families body. A law allowing the family to do this against your wishes will never pass.

> Because it's your body, not your family's body

A dead person can't own property, which is why wills, trusts, and laws of intestate succession exist.

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Post by dragonwriter »

rdtwo wrote: post #5

You body is worth a lot of money to your estate. By donating it someone in the medical industry gets to steal that money from your family then profit handsomely from it. That’s why I choose no for organ donation, the whole industry is corrupt and I don’t want to support it, even if it means that some unfortunate sick person is unable to buy my donated kidney for 50-100k in processing fees.

> By donating it someone in the medical industry gets to steal that money from your family

No, because the body was never theirs, no one can steal it or it's value from them. You might choose to give it to them (including by leaving the matte to the default inheritance rules of your jurisdiction), you might choose to give it someone else, but until you do and it is transferred according to that decisions, it's no one’s but yours.

We aren't property of other people, whether of the same, past, or subsequent generations.

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Post by UnpossibleJim »

sysbin wrote: post #21
big_chungus wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, way to make people want to be organ donors. I'm willing to help someone who's got a bad kidney, but that? No way. There's a big difference in giving up some body parts to save someone's life once you don't need them and getting sent to the glue factory to feed someone's vanity.

Cosmetic surgery isn't necessarily a bad thing because you associate it with the word vanity. I hope you realize that appearance can be just as important psychologically in a life as a person that's needing surgery for other reasons.

There's a difference between burn victim "vanity" and Kardashian vanity. One isn't a bad thing, and the cosmetic surgery to relieve the physical and emotional trauma associated with such is necessary. The latter, however, is a sideshow brought to us via Comcast and Instagram.

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Post by bjornjaja »

hu3 wrote: post #11
rdtwo wrote: post #5

You body is worth a lot of money to your estate. By donating it someone in the medical industry gets to steal that money from your family then profit handsomely from it. That’s why I choose no for organ donation, the whole industry is corrupt and I don’t want to support it, even if it means that some unfortunate sick person is unable to buy my donated kidney for 50-100k in processing fees.

Perhaps that's the case in USA and a few other countries. But AFAIK on some countries of EU and Brazil, receiving organs is either free or inexpensive.

Free organs . I wouldn’t want one of those. Maybe it’s filled with bullet holes.

Re: In the rush to harvest body parts, death investigations have been upended

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Post by [deleted] »

hanniabu wrote: post #15

How come you can only be an organ donor or nothing at all? Why is it not possible for your family to sell your body? I'm positive that it would flood the market with bodies and drive the value of your body down, but would at least still cover funeral services. It would be nice if you could even select what you want to donate and sell, such as sell your skin and donate your organs.

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