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Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Usually I am for freedom to do anything you want as long as it does not impact other people.

I am OK though with banning ads for sugary drinks because society pays a high medical cost for damage due to excess sugar addiction/use.

This is like forcing motor cycle riders to wear helmets.

BTW, I worked in Singapore for a while in 2016. Wonderful place! People just seemed happy there, from business people to laborers. If I were younger I might consider moving there for permanent work.

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Usually I am for freedom to do anything you want as long as it does not impact other people. I am OK though with banning ads for sugary drinks because society pays a high medical cost for damage due to excess sugar addiction/use. This is like forcing motor cycle riders to wear helmets. BTW, I worked in Singapore for a while in 2016. Wonderful place! People just seemed happy there, from business people to laborers. If…

There's nothing particularly unusual about being a libertarian in the "what's good for me" sense.

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Usually I am for freedom to do anything you want as long as it does not impact other people. I am OK though with banning ads for sugary drinks because society pays a high medical cost for damage due to excess sugar addiction/use. This is like forcing motor cycle riders to wear helmets. BTW, I worked in Singapore for a while in 2016. Wonderful place! People just seemed happy there, from business people to laborers. If…

There's nothing particularly unusual about being a libertarian in the "what's good for me" sense.

True, pretty much everyone is “for freedom as long as it doesn’t impact other people, except in some cases.”

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Usually I am for freedom to do anything you want as long as it does not impact other people. I am OK though with banning ads for sugary drinks because society pays a high medical cost for damage due to excess sugar addiction/use. This is like forcing motor cycle riders to wear helmets. BTW, I worked in Singapore for a while in 2016. Wonderful place! People just seemed happy there, from business people to laborers. If…

There's a point there that I don't think gets enough discussion:

As healthcare becomes increasingly socialized, personal unhealthy choices become an attack on society at large.

Why wouldn't we ban sugary drinks altogether? Motorcycle riding even with a helmet? Maybe get rid of pasta. It's not clear to me where we should stop, if medical costs to society are a valid justification for reducing personal freedom...

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Usually I am for freedom to do anything you want as long as it does not impact other people. I am OK though with banning ads for sugary drinks because society pays a high medical cost for damage due to excess sugar addiction/use. This is like forcing motor cycle riders to wear helmets. BTW, I worked in Singapore for a while in 2016. Wonderful place! People just seemed happy there, from business people to laborers. If…

I think this is a good thing but society pays for almost everything. Almost every bad decision a person makes impacts society and someone pays for it.

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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I'm not opposed to this but it strikes me as somewhat weak - if you think something is bad enough to ban visibility of it, why not just go all the way and ban the thing itself. Same with smoking, alcohol, etc.

Of course, prohibition doesn't have a terribly successful history but the whole approach seems odd and inconsistent to me.

I guess the rationale is a pragmatic de-normalising of toxic and addictive but currently fully normalised foods and substances over the long term.

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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I'm not opposed to this but it strikes me as somewhat weak - if you think something is bad enough to ban visibility of it, why not just go all the way and ban the thing itself. Same with smoking, alcohol, etc. Of course, prohibition doesn't have a terribly successful history but the whole approach seems odd and inconsistent to me. I guess the rationale is a pragmatic de-normalising of toxic and addictive but currentl…

Banning advertising here just restricts the freedom of corporations. Banning the item itself means individuals who want it can't get it.

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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I'm not opposed to this but it strikes me as somewhat weak - if you think something is bad enough to ban visibility of it, why not just go all the way and ban the thing itself. Same with smoking, alcohol, etc. Of course, prohibition doesn't have a terribly successful history but the whole approach seems odd and inconsistent to me. I guess the rationale is a pragmatic de-normalising of toxic and addictive but currentl…

You don’t ban things all at once, you do it in small steps.

Re: Singapore to become first country banning ads on sugary drinks

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Usually I am for freedom to do anything you want as long as it does not impact other people. I am OK though with banning ads for sugary drinks because society pays a high medical cost for damage due to excess sugar addiction/use. This is like forcing motor cycle riders to wear helmets. BTW, I worked in Singapore for a while in 2016. Wonderful place! People just seemed happy there, from business people to laborers. If…

There's a point there that I don't think gets enough discussion: As healthcare becomes increasingly socialized, personal unhealthy choices become an attack on society at large. Why wouldn't we ban sugary drinks altogether? Motorcycle riding even with a helmet? Maybe get rid of pasta. It's not clear to me where we should stop, if medical costs to society are a valid justification for reducing personal freedom...

In SF sugary drinks are taxed extra.

There are signs that demand for sugary drinks are on the decline naturally e.g. demand for sparking water has increased as people look for alternatives to drinking a coke. And there was a recent article on how juice consumption has dropped to new lows...

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