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Ask HN: How do you move up in professional status as a remote worker?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you move up in professional status as a remote worker?

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You can't. A remote software developer in a primarily geo located site is doomed to fail. Source: personal experience.

With all due respect, the fact that you have doesn't remotly imply that any remote developer is doomed to fail.

Re: Ask HN: How do you move up in professional status as a remote worker?

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You might get some answers here but for your company the main way is to talk to the boss who makes the decisions about who does what and ask them for the job, or if not what you have to do to achieve that. I'd think spending some face-time in the office to know the team would be a requirement.

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Fully remote worker (from another country) on a leadership position here. Hard work and exceptional availability and communication skills. I was the guy who would work weekends, be the first the show up online etc. Never procrastinate. Keep track of other people's work and make your efforts in moving things forward crystal clear to your boss. Deliver. People are not going to bet on a remote worker for displaying exce…

> I was the guy who would work weekends Even in this context this doesn’t seem a good idea; it might as well lead to burnout or similar.

Another way to look at that you can choose to work weekends until you don't have to. I've certainly done that in the past. I don't know if I recommend it, as even if you don't burn out, it's not much of a life unless you love the work.

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post #10

I work for remote for 4 years now, one in employment and three as a freelancer. I have the feeling most of business stuff is gut feeling and story telling. People aren't interested in what you can do for them, but in what they think you can do for them. The will gladly promote someone over you just because they sit in the same office or at the same floor as them. Often it's enough that they both believe in the next h…

> When I did a podcast

Have you tried video? I wonder if being able to see as well as hear you makes a difference.

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post #10

I work for remote for 4 years now, one in employment and three as a freelancer. I have the feeling most of business stuff is gut feeling and story telling. People aren't interested in what you can do for them, but in what they think you can do for them. The will gladly promote someone over you just because they sit in the same office or at the same floor as them. Often it's enough that they both believe in the next h…

> When I did a podcast Have you tried video? I wonder if being able to see as well as hear you makes a difference.

Yes, and it works even better.

Disclaimer: I'm a white dude in my mid thirties, so I'm obviously biased.

Re: Ask HN: How do you move up in professional status as a remote worker?

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As a person leading a remote first company. I believe that it is first depends on the company and leadership culture. If they look at you as an "outside" help, they will less trust you with important roles and responsibilities. I have two suggestions: 1. From my experience even a week on site can make a huge difference. Is it a possibility for you to reach to the office? 2. Try to understand more about the bigger pic…

Hi, I work for a small-medium business and while the whole business isn't remote first, but the particular project I'm on is. Should I plan my Skype meetings more carefully, and rehearse some important things to say? Right now I'm a contractor and the first step that I want to achieve is becoming a full-time worker. They only have me on for 100 hours or so, no retainer. I'm still at the first third of those 100 hours.

Re: Ask HN: How do you move up in professional status as a remote worker?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I was the guy who would work weekends Even in this context this doesn’t seem a good idea; it might as well lead to burnout or similar.

Another way to look at that you can choose to work weekends until you don't have to. I've certainly done that in the past. I don't know if I recommend it, as even if you don't burn out, it's not much of a life unless you love the work.

Working weekends is basically giving your employer part of your work for free.

Would you accept a temporary pay deduction to demonstrate company loyalty?

For some this might work out well. For others, not so much. In any case I think that this needlessly puts the employer in a position of power.

I’d search for other, safer and healthier ways of proving your worth to the company.

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