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Bone marrow was kept in a Stone Age meat locker

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Re: Bone marrow was kept in a Stone Age meat locker

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Post by mikehotel »

The vague nutrition language in the Times article, led me to the study [1], which has more specifics:

“Marrow composition was mostly unsaturated FA (78%), especially monounsaturated (74%), and only 22% comprised saturated fats (table S1). Oleic (C18:1n-9) was the most abundant FA in marrow (36% in week 0), with a significant decrease per week (−0.7 ± 0.14%; P The energy value of marrow obtained from metapodial bones ranged from 123 kcal (bone from week 2 in the outdoor autumn scenario) to 2.7 kcal (bone from week 6 in the outdoor spring scenario). The energy contained in one bone in good conservation conditions (i.e., up to 9 weeks in the outdoor autumn scenario or the first few weeks in the outdoor spring scenario) could be comparable to the crude energy content of 25 g of fresh meat.”

1. https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/10/eaav9822

Re: Bone marrow was kept in a Stone Age meat locker

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Post by mntmoss »

h2odragon wrote: post #16
chmars wrote: post #2

Bone marrow, still in the bone and with Fleur de Sel, is one of my favorite dishes! How do Americans think about bone marrow as a dish?

>How do Americans think about bone marrow as a dish? We don't. Even the tiny number of people that do their own butchering rarely mention it. I've had hunters tell me "don't give bones to your dogs its bad for them!" Most Americans don't know marrows could be food and would probably have to be starving before they'd try it.

The admonitions about giving dogs bones derive from fast eaters tending to choke on them - not the bone's nutrition. (Although it would not surprise me if somehow the idea has gotten corrupted)

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Post by kadoban »

mntmoss wrote: post #22
h2odragon wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>How do Americans think about bone marrow as a dish? We don't. Even the tiny number of people that do their own butchering rarely mention it. I've had hunters tell me "don't give bones to your dogs its bad for them!" Most Americans don't know marrows could be food and would probably have to be starving before they'd try it.

The admonitions about giving dogs bones derive from fast eaters tending to choke on them - not the bone's nutrition. (Although it would not surprise me if somehow the idea has gotten corrupted)

Some bones, especially chicken bones, also splinter and cause all kinds of serious havoc on the digestive system.

I've had pork bones break in scary ways as well when the dogs got into them. I personally don't give my dogs anything but rawhides and large beef bones anymore, both of which you just have to buy specially really.

On the subject of actual marrow, it adds a lot to soups and stews. Usually added via just cooking the bones in the soup/stew and removing towards the end.

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Post by coldtea »

rch wrote: post #19
h2odragon wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>How do Americans think about bone marrow as a dish? We don't. Even the tiny number of people that do their own butchering rarely mention it. I've had hunters tell me "don't give bones to your dogs its bad for them!" Most Americans don't know marrows could be food and would probably have to be starving before they'd try it.

I regularly see bone marrow on restaurant menus, and frozen cut bones are available in grocery stores. I've lived in North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Texas, New York and Colorado.... Wherever you happen to be I'd guess that if you start looking you'll find that it's always been there.

Just not on menus of restaurants the 90% of the people go to regularly...

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

kadoban wrote: post #26
mntmoss wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The admonitions about giving dogs bones derive from fast eaters tending to choke on them - not the bone's nutrition. (Although it would not surprise me if somehow the idea has gotten corrupted)

Some bones, especially chicken bones, also splinter and cause all kinds of serious havoc on the digestive system. I've had pork bones break in scary ways as well when the dogs got into them. I personally don't give my dogs anything but rawhides and large beef bones anymore, both of which you just have to buy specially really. On the subject of actual marrow, it adds a lot to soups and stews. Usually added via just co…

Cooked bones. Raw chicken bones are bendy and harmless.

Re: Bone marrow was kept in a Stone Age meat locker

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Post by EricE »

tempguy9999 wrote: post #24

I don't understand how meat stored in ambient conditions and quite warm temperatures (main article seems to say ~20C) doesn't go off.

Oxygen - or lack of. Think about it - marrow is sealed inside the bone. They had to use stone chisels to free it so it could be consumed :)

Re: Bone marrow was kept in a Stone Age meat locker

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Post by rayiner »

ricc wrote: post #4
chmars wrote: post #2

Bone marrow, still in the bone and with Fleur de Sel, is one of my favorite dishes! How do Americans think about bone marrow as a dish?

Osso bucco is one of my favorite dishes. Coincidentally, we're gonna have one for dinner! (Not an American but just continuing the conversation on favorite bone marrow dishes. :-D)

This is the correct answer. You can get osso bucco in almost any significantly sized American city.
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