I'm wondering if this is what it will take to finally push politics out of software development.
Decent behaviour respectful and inclusive to all?
But who should be responsible of deciding if Stallman was indecent or not inclusive and why?
Richard Stallman defies push by 27 GNU Project developers to end his leadership
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Re: Richard Stallman defies push by 27 GNU Project developers to end his leadership
#12I think even before this "scandal" Stallman's extreme ideology has only further alienated GNU. Stallman should have been out years ago.
Stallman's advocating of an extreme ideology and it permeating the otherwise extremely capitalist tech world is in fact the only good thing he did in his career.
Re: Richard Stallman defies push by 27 GNU Project developers to end his leadership
#13I'm wondering if this is what it will take to finally push politics out of software development.
The GNU and stallman are political. "Removing politics" from software would require a definitive answer to GPL or MIT being a better license.
MIT is the better license because it is more free than GPL. GPL comes with specific obligations.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Decent behaviour respectful and inclusive to all?
But who should be responsible of deciding if Stallman was indecent or not inclusive and why?
Who should be responsible of deciding if anyone is indecent or inclusive? Are decency and inclusivity even real?
Re: Richard Stallman defies push by 27 GNU Project developers to end his leadership
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
The GNU and stallman are political. "Removing politics" from software would require a definitive answer to GPL or MIT being a better license.
MIT is the better license because it is more free than GPL. GPL comes with specific obligations.
The specific obligations in GPL are there to ensure the continued availability of modified sources--that is keep the software free.
Re: Richard Stallman defies push by 27 GNU Project developers to end his leadership
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
MIT is the better license because it is more free than GPL. GPL comes with specific obligations.
The specific obligations in GPL are there to ensure the continued availability of modified sources--that is keep the software free.
I understand why they are there but that has nothing to do with freedom. Forcing people to obey rules if they want to use the software is not freedom. In contrast, MIT gives and requires nothing. That is true freedom.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
The specific obligations in GPL are there to ensure the continued availability of modified sources--that is keep the software free.
I understand why they are there but that has nothing to do with freedom. Forcing people to obey rules if they want to use the software is not freedom. In contrast, MIT gives and requires nothing. That is true freedom.
See Copyleft
Re: Richard Stallman defies push by 27 GNU Project developers to end his leadership
#18I'm wondering if this is what it will take to finally push politics out of software development.
Decent behaviour respectful and inclusive to all?
what's the definition of 'decent' behavior and who gets to decide? What if cheating on your spouse is considered indecent to me. should anyone that gets caught cheating get kicked out of their open source project?
On top of this, Stallman hasn't been convicted in any courts. It's only a court of public opinion where a mere allegation means you are already guilty.
1984 in 2019.
Re: Richard Stallman defies push by 27 GNU Project developers to end his leadership
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Decent behaviour respectful and inclusive to all?
what's the definition of 'decent' behavior and who gets to decide? What if cheating on your spouse is considered indecent to me. should anyone that gets caught cheating get kicked out of their open source project? On top of this, Stallman hasn't been convicted in any courts. It's only a court of public opinion where a mere allegation means you are already guilty. 1984 in 2019.
> On top of this, Stallman hasn't been convicted in any courts.
And no one has as far as I've seen, suggested imprisoning him. Just removing him from a position of authority.
Re: Richard Stallman defies push by 27 GNU Project developers to end his leadership
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
The specific obligations in GPL are there to ensure the continued availability of modified sources--that is keep the software free.
I understand why they are there but that has nothing to do with freedom. Forcing people to obey rules if they want to use the software is not freedom. In contrast, MIT gives and requires nothing. That is true freedom.
GPL puts more importance on the software's freedom.
MIT puts more importance on the developer's freedom.
Arguably, it's not really possible to claim one is better than the other because they have different philosophies. If you feel that ensuring the code must stay free is important, GPL is probably the better license. If you're more interested in the freedom of the developer to use the code even in a non-free way, then MIT would be the better license.