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Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

fishtacos wrote: post #14
radicalbyte wrote: post #6

It's time to switch to Firefox as my main web browser. It's faster and generally more efficient than Chrome plus it has the most important extensions. The most surprising thing is that the Android version of Firefox is excellent. So good that I switched from Chrome a few months ago when this expected news first dropped. No ads on mobile is awesome.

Odd - my experience is the opposite. FF is noticeably slower than Chrome, and my Chrome installation is loaded with extensions, unlike Firefox. Phoronix's tests seem to back my experience as well. From 4 days ago: "As for the Firefox vs. Chrome performance, Google's web browser continues generally delivering better performance." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=firefox6...

You should try installing the extensions that help FF become faster than Chrome: Privacy Badger, uBlock Origin and optionally HTTPS Everywhere.

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Post by behringer »

fishtacos wrote: post #14
radicalbyte wrote: post #6

It's time to switch to Firefox as my main web browser. It's faster and generally more efficient than Chrome plus it has the most important extensions. The most surprising thing is that the Android version of Firefox is excellent. So good that I switched from Chrome a few months ago when this expected news first dropped. No ads on mobile is awesome.

Odd - my experience is the opposite. FF is noticeably slower than Chrome, and my Chrome installation is loaded with extensions, unlike Firefox. Phoronix's tests seem to back my experience as well. From 4 days ago: "As for the Firefox vs. Chrome performance, Google's web browser continues generally delivering better performance." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=firefox6...

I don't know why people choose their browser based on resource usage. You can have a browser run by a company looking to loot the public good for their own gain, or a non-profit looking to keep the web open and free.

Hold on I'm going to pick the one that's marginally faster and more ram efficient...

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Post by tomrod »

somebehemoth wrote: post #70
Pxtl wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately the Android version of Firefox is unusably crashy on my phone (moto z play) and noticeably slower. I gave it a hard try, but it just wasn't workable. Still using Firefox on all desktop/laptop devices, though.

I see this all the time and I think it is unhelpful to make these kinds of statements. I can make a counterpoint that I've used FF on Android for years and never experienced any issues whatsoever. I am not trying invalidate your experience, but want to point out anecdotes don't really paint a fair picture for either side of the argument. For example, how do we know my good experience and your bad experience are not e…

It should be seen as feedback for devs.

The comparison app (Chrome) _just works.__

Firefox has gaps for a noticeable fraction of folks.

No one complains when their software works as expected.

[Edit] I say this as someone who prefers firefox on all their machines wherever possible.

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Post by Aperocky »

fishtacos wrote: post #14
radicalbyte wrote: post #6

It's time to switch to Firefox as my main web browser. It's faster and generally more efficient than Chrome plus it has the most important extensions. The most surprising thing is that the Android version of Firefox is excellent. So good that I switched from Chrome a few months ago when this expected news first dropped. No ads on mobile is awesome.

Odd - my experience is the opposite. FF is noticeably slower than Chrome, and my Chrome installation is loaded with extensions, unlike Firefox. Phoronix's tests seem to back my experience as well. From 4 days ago: "As for the Firefox vs. Chrome performance, Google's web browser continues generally delivering better performance." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=firefox6...

I can't notice any real difference, having been using Nightly (dev) edition for a full year now. Incidentally, my company (one of the largest tech in the world) uses Firefox by default (and nobody had any reason to switch).

Google simply can't be trusted with all that ads stuff

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Post by Santosh83 »

cookie_monsta wrote: post #74
zaarn wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't mean that Chrome isn't a monopoly, with their current marketshare, if Chrome introduces a new feature or changes how some feature works, all competitors have no choice but to implement that change or websites stop working.

That's not really how it worked pre-2010 when IE had the monopoly. And for all of Chrome (and Google's) faults, it does seem to be reasonably standards- compliant and even open to experimentation. If they want to spend some of their piles of cash developing new features that other browsers can then adopt and then standardise, I don't see the problem. If developers choose to use Chrome-only features and their pages br…

You will by definition be standards compliant if you are the main mover behind the eternally moving standard. Chrome powers the living standard. Other browser engines follow.

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Post by K0SM0S »

torben-friis wrote: post #18

I wonder if it's been on purpose or just, as always, their automatic algorithms being imposible to contest when they're wrong. Honestly, Google's (and general tech giants') willingness to let people's lives be caught in the cracks of their algorithms in their pursue for scalability scares me more than any ideology they could push. More and more, we're seeing developers and content creators being banned or demonetised…

So I thought/researched/wrote for 10+ years about possible legal frameworks and regulation for the 21st century; and in the end it seems an untenable proposition to 'force' such evolution by way of law, if we look at the actual history of most sectors — energy, construction, steel, media, telco... and now electronics and tech. I mean it's wishful thinking and whatever 'law' ends up being circumvented. Concentration is inevitable.

What does seem to 'work' is the subversion of one sub-market by another, e.g. when we transition from radio to TV, or when began the post-Facebook era. These are technological innovations. Political science taught me one thing: what changes the world is not what we think or say, it's what we do, and the most groundbreaking actions are those who create the everyday things that change our lives in dramatic ways — mobile phones, cars, planes, TV, YouTube, Netflix, Maps, chats, what-you-use.

Ergo, if we want a truly "fair" network, I think there's no other way but to make one. A real innovation that pretty much owns the market of inter-human communication, eventually. Something the magnitude of netscape/javascript at the end of the 1990s, or SMS, or Facebook versus everything else before, or streaming video and audio... a real shift in 'what you can do' or the way you do it.

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Post by feanaro »

tomrod wrote: post #133
somebehemoth wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see this all the time and I think it is unhelpful to make these kinds of statements. I can make a counterpoint that I've used FF on Android for years and never experienced any issues whatsoever. I am not trying invalidate your experience, but want to point out anecdotes don't really paint a fair picture for either side of the argument. For example, how do we know my good experience and your bad experience are not e…

It should be seen as feedback for devs. The comparison app (Chrome) _just works.__ Firefox has gaps for a noticeable fraction of folks. No one complains when their software works as expected. [Edit] I say this as someone who prefers firefox on all their machines wherever possible.

> The comparison app (Chrome) _just works.__

Except when it doesn't. I initially switched to Firefox on Android because Chrome was crashing often and was noticeably slower.

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Post by scarface74 »

zaarn wrote: post #115
scarface74 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And having a monopoly isn’t illegal. Again, despite what all of the wannabe lawyers who post to HN think. How many times have HN users posted that Apple is a “monopoly”?

Google is certainly not a corporation that has ever shown to have an interest in the best for their users. They have already done quite a few things that benefit them or hurt competitors (youtube's UI is slow on firefox, changing the scrolling UI for no reason, trying to kill adblockers and now blocking uBlock from their store).

Google is no different than any other for profit corporation. Their first interest is making money by getting their customers to pay them. Their customers are advertisers. Their users are what they sell to their customers.

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Post by k__ »

diimdeep wrote: post #88

Have been using Firefox Nightly for few weeks as only browser. Rock solid. Can recommend few extensions - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/auto-tab-disc... - http://www.one-tab.com - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/multi-touch-z...

At the moment I only have one issue with FF. I can't use bookmarklets on pages like FB and Twitter, because of some wrong implementation of a content policiy or something like that...

Re: A uBlock Origin update was rejected from the Chrome Web Store

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Post by alexandercrohde »

armitron wrote: post #44

Fuck Google. They've become the cancer of the Internet. Microsoft in its glory days wasn't even close to how despicably terrible Google is.

I think that's an interesting comparison. There is definitely some merit to it.

It's kind of hard to sum all the good and bad of google or microsoft off the top of my head though.

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