again, not a barrier.
Eliud Kipchoge Breaks Two-Hour Marathon Barrier
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#92Reminds me of this post on HN from 5 years ago: what will it take to run a 2 hour marathon? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8439408 Unfortunately the linked article seems to have disappeared. I wonder if today's record was run with those special Nike shoes with the blades inside... The ones that supposedly give you a 1 percent boost or something similar... If you have shoes that give you such a boost, is it dopi…
Yes. I heard he ran with a Nike prototype called alphaFly, which is probably superior to the VaporFly.
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#93That is, while impressive, pretty meaningless. The thing is, that sports are defined by their rules and to the best of my understanding the long distance running rules are written to prevent teamwork. (Unlike cycling, which is explicitly a team sport.) Basically, the two hour mark is important in the specific circumstances of Olympic marathon, and was broken in a different sport. To broaden the discussion a bit, it s…
You are perhaps a bit unfamiliar with long distance running. Team work can be a part of long-distance running. Pacers can help with the mental effort required to run at a particular pace; they can shield the runner from the adverse effects of wind during a race; they even help with the time keeping and dealing with crowds of spectators impinging on the course. Should be pacers be a part of marathon racing? Perhaps no…
> Eliud Kipchoge runs so fast that he used a number of fresh pacers for this particular effort
And of course the pacers are also among the fastest runners in the world. (Here's a list: https://live.ineos159challenge.com/pacemakers - if you follow running you may recognise many of them)
This may be an artificial setup and in part a marketing gimmick, but it's also an impressive team activity as well as an individual success.
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#94Given that "[i]t will not be recognised as the official marathon world record because it was not in open competition and he used a team of rotating pacemakers," Mr. Kipchoge's attitude represents the best of sport: "Now I've done it, I am expecting more people to do it after me... This shows the positivity of sport. I want to make it a clean and interesting sport. Together when we run, we can make it a beautiful worl…
I just formed my own officiating world record certification body called WASI; We All Saw It. WASI rejects who-evers claim to a monopoly on declaring who ran what, when, and where. WASI officially recognizes Elluid Kipchoge as the most badass marathon distance runner alive.
he's also the 'normal' marathon world champion. He just didn't exceed his own previous record with this because it didn't qualify in this category.
You wouldn't allow a rocket propelled and self driving formel1 car into the same bracket as the normal league either.... Though the difference is significantly less here
His achievements are listed on Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliud_Kipchoge
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#95So Kipchoge had rotating teams of pacemakers running _before_ him, throughout the race. Each team was able to outrun Kipchoge for a short amount of time, but of course Kipchoge himself had to keep the same pace throughout the race. This reminded me of an episode from Terry Pratchett's Small Gods . This is mostly from memory, but he describes an invasion of the country Ephebe where the invasion force comes from the si…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Black_Buck
Great example
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#96So Kipchoge had rotating teams of pacemakers running _before_ him, throughout the race. Each team was able to outrun Kipchoge for a short amount of time, but of course Kipchoge himself had to keep the same pace throughout the race. This reminded me of an episode from Terry Pratchett's Small Gods . This is mostly from memory, but he describes an invasion of the country Ephebe where the invasion force comes from the si…
The benefit of the support runners wasn't just to help him keep pace (he could probably do this with music). They also provide a drafting help to limit any head-on air resistance.
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#97That is, while impressive, pretty meaningless. The thing is, that sports are defined by their rules and to the best of my understanding the long distance running rules are written to prevent teamwork. (Unlike cycling, which is explicitly a team sport.) Basically, the two hour mark is important in the specific circumstances of Olympic marathon, and was broken in a different sport. To broaden the discussion a bit, it s…
Dude, I get it. It wasn't a race. But it was damn close to race conditions. Pacemaking is a situation that regularly happens on race day. There was no giant fan. It was basically race day under ideal conditions. You are obviously not a runner, and don't appear to have an understanding of how important certain rules are (or aren't) and yet want to enforce your judgment on everybody else. Now that's what I call Bullshi…
It was damn close to a race, and they got a result that is damn close to the world record.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait ... why a laser projection? You could just use the car for pacing.
Maybe for keeping a safe distance without having to eyeball it, or for avoiding the fumes.
Might want to use an electric car to avoid the fumes. I do wonder if the car, even a larger distance ahead, does more for drafting than a human in front of the runner.
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#99That's running 42km at 21km/h… Anybody who already tried to run a sub20 5km (5km at 15km/h) knows how crazy this is.
Put another way, it’s an average 4:35 mile sustained for 26 miles. It’s hard to even get my head around how a human being could accomplish this.
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#100At this pace he would beat lots of amateurs ON A BIKE!