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Slow walking at 45 'a sign of faster ageing'

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Re: Slow walking at 45 'a sign of faster ageing'

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Post by zxcmx »

AssTrolladjer wrote: post #23

This shit will not replicate. Classic p-value hacking, if not total fiction, dreamt up to pad chum buckets. It is junk science to the core. I'd bet one thousand dollars that another researcher could wrangle contradictory data with a diametrically opposed result. This trash infotainment has been selected because it is inconsequential to the point of being astrology. No individual can take this "discovery" and apply it…

Is this just a general position or do you have concerns with this specific study?

I tend to be reflexively skeptical of results like this as well - but I also have a lot of time for results from the Dunedin study. Long-term studies are great and we (society, science) should do more of them.

Re: Slow walking at 45 'a sign of faster ageing'

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Post by psilocipher »

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #16
psilocipher wrote: post #7

So, if you feel older than you really are, walk faster. Problem solved. Got it.

correlation vs causation. If you walk slowly you won't be able to figure it out.

My point, albeit made sarcastically, is maybe some people just like to walk slowly. I was taught as a young man that walking slowly is a sign of wisdom and confidence. It means you know where you are going, you left on time, and you're not in a hurry.

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Post by taneq »

This reminds me of the “surprising” finding that ability to stand from seated partition without using your hands is associated with dramatically lower chance of dying within 5 years. Of course, this is because anyone likely to die of old age within 5 years is unlikely to be that spry.

Re: Slow walking at 45 'a sign of faster ageing'

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Post by darkerside »

taneq wrote: post #43

This reminds me of the “surprising” finding that ability to stand from seated partition without using your hands is associated with dramatically lower chance of dying within 5 years. Of course, this is because anyone likely to die of old age within 5 years is unlikely to be that spry.

Correlation doesn't equal causation, in either direction.

It's fashionable to downplay the physical these days, but I think it's reasonable to hypothesize that if you don't maintain your muscle, you reduce quality of life AND increase mortality risk significantly.

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Post by david-gpu »

Scoundreller wrote: post #2

> A number of treatments, from low-calorie diets to taking the drug metformin, are currently being investigated. Everything I read about metformin is exciting: cheap, simple structure, causes weight loss, reduced all-cause mortality in diabetics (ie: they studied it long enough to make sure it works, not just to ensure it reduces blood sugar), reduces blood sugar without hypoglycemia and might prevent cancer.

Couldn't you say the exact same thing about regular exercise? And it has minimal side effects, unlike this medication.

Re: Slow walking at 45 'a sign of faster ageing'

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Post by bachmeier »

david-gpu wrote: post #46
Scoundreller wrote: post #2

> A number of treatments, from low-calorie diets to taking the drug metformin, are currently being investigated. Everything I read about metformin is exciting: cheap, simple structure, causes weight loss, reduced all-cause mortality in diabetics (ie: they studied it long enough to make sure it works, not just to ensure it reduces blood sugar), reduces blood sugar without hypoglycemia and might prevent cancer.

Couldn't you say the exact same thing about regular exercise? And it has minimal side effects, unlike this medication.

Nope. At least not for me. My blood sugar was too high and rising. I exercised all the time and ate a low carb diet. My blood sugar continued to rise, but the spikes were only while I was sleeping.

My doctor gave me a prescription, my blood sugar immediately went down and stayed down, and in four months I had lost 25 pounds. I don't feel hungry all the time (a problem that got a lot worse when I cut down on carbs). I don't think there's anything I could have done naturally to prevent diabetes.

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

darkerside wrote: post #44
taneq wrote: post #43

This reminds me of the “surprising” finding that ability to stand from seated partition without using your hands is associated with dramatically lower chance of dying within 5 years. Of course, this is because anyone likely to die of old age within 5 years is unlikely to be that spry.

Correlation doesn't equal causation, in either direction. It's fashionable to downplay the physical these days, but I think it's reasonable to hypothesize that if you don't maintain your muscle, you reduce quality of life AND increase mortality risk significantly.

It’s much worse if you can’t maintain your muscles, rather than just don’t. And older people have a lot of reasons that can happen (my dad degraded like this quickly from cancer we didn’t know about at the time).

Re: Slow walking at 45 'a sign of faster ageing'

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Post by isoskeles »

mikedilger wrote: post #9

Study link: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle... The study was done in NZ in Dunedin. I wonder how much difference/coorelation there is between locales. I've found that Wellingtonians walk very fast in general - I thought I was a fast walker always passing people in San Francisco, but when I moved to Wellington everybody was passing me.

Maybe you were just passing the tourists.
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