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“Dune” Endures (2013)

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You can download the original Dune game and play it on your macbook: https://gamesnostalgia.com/game/dune One of my all time favorite games, played it on the amiga originally

Interestingly both dune and dune 2 were released around the same time and both are amazing. Dune 2 created the rts genre while Dune was a wonderful combination of adventure and strategy.

For Dune, I'd recommend the CD version https://www.freegameempire.com/games/Dune-CD

There's a great series of articles on Filfre about both games and the Dune universe https://www.filfre.net/2018/11/controlling-the-spice-part-1-...

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>As David Itzkoff noted in 2006, what’s curious about “Dune” ’s stature is that it has not penetrated popular culture in the way that “The Lord of the Rings” and “Star Wars” have. There are no “Dune” conventions. Catchphrases from the book have not entered the language.

The movie next year oughta do it, if the star-studded cast and acclaimed director are any indication.

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You can download the original Dune game and play it on your macbook: https://gamesnostalgia.com/game/dune One of my all time favorite games, played it on the amiga originally

the DUNE spice opera soundtrack from the game from Stephane Picq is still very nice to listen to as well.

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>As David Itzkoff noted in 2006, what’s curious about “Dune” ’s stature is that it has not penetrated popular culture in the way that “The Lord of the Rings” and “Star Wars” have. There are no “Dune” conventions. Catchphrases from the book have not entered the language. The movie next year oughta do it, if the star-studded cast and acclaimed director are any indication.

The last Dune movie (1984) didn't do it.

"It's like The Last Airbender, but with sand."

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> Catchphrases from the book have not entered the language.

The spice must flow?

Fear is the mind killer?

Christopher Walken dancing to Fatboy Slim's "Weapon of Choice" includes the phrase "Walk without a rhythm, you won't attract the worm". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8

Maybe to a lesser extent, "He who controls the spice controls the universe", "wheels within wheels", and the gom jabbar are all things I've heard people reference.

It's definitely entered the language. Maybe not as deeply as Star Wars, but it's not absent either.

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>As David Itzkoff noted in 2006, what’s curious about “Dune” ’s stature is that it has not penetrated popular culture in the way that “The Lord of the Rings” and “Star Wars” have. There are no “Dune” conventions. Catchphrases from the book have not entered the language. The movie next year oughta do it, if the star-studded cast and acclaimed director are any indication.

The last Dune movie (1984) didn't do it. "It's like The Last Airbender, but with sand."

I might be in the minority but I liked the Dune movie. It introduced the universe, how it worked, had a solid cast. The movie is clearly one from the 80s with it's dedication to atmosphere.

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>As David Itzkoff noted in 2006, what’s curious about “Dune” ’s stature is that it has not penetrated popular culture in the way that “The Lord of the Rings” and “Star Wars” have. There are no “Dune” conventions. Catchphrases from the book have not entered the language. The movie next year oughta do it, if the star-studded cast and acclaimed director are any indication.

> Catchphrases from the book have not entered the language.

What an odd framing. True, perhaps, but what about from the 1984 movie?

> "The spice must flow!"

> "If you walk without rhythm, you won't attract the worm"

> "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."

Frank Herbert isn't exactly known for succinct, catchy one-liners. Here's at least one I recognize from the book, "Fear is the mind-killer":

> "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

Sure, Dune may not be as big as LOTR or Star Wars, but before the blockbuster films, what catchphrases from LOTR were (are?) remotely commonplace?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last Dune movie (1984) didn't do it. "It's like The Last Airbender, but with sand."

I might be in the minority but I liked the Dune movie. It introduced the universe, how it worked, had a solid cast. The movie is clearly one from the 80s with it's dedication to atmosphere.

What you call "dedication to atmosphere" felt just too over the top to many others.

From one other review:

"The second scene depicts the mysterious “Guild Navigator,” a brainiac character Lynch devises as a literal giant talking brain floating in a tank of brine. His mouth is triangular-shaped. There’s really no clean way of saying this, so here goes: It looks like a vagina. And it secretes gas. Lynch likes to shoot this in graphic close-up, and they’re explicit enough that if you see the film cut on TV, the editors completely omit these shots."

https://www.metro.us/entertainment/in-slight-defense-david-l...

I respect your appreciation for the movie, but to most people it's objectively bad.

From Wikipedia:

"In retrospect, Lynch disowned the film and acknowledged he should never have directed Dune:

I started selling out on Dune. Looking back, it's no one's fault but my own. I probably shouldn't have done that picture, but I saw tons and tons of possibilities for things I loved, and this was the structure to do them in. There was so much room to create a world. But I got strong indications from Raffaella and Dino De Laurentiis of what kind of film they expected, and I knew I didn't have final cut."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(1984_film)#Critical_rece...

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