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New York's Strand bookstore fights back over landmark status

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Re: New York's Strand bookstore fights back over landmark status

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Every year around a certain date, the meaning of which is opaque to me, I receive a package sent from the Strand bookstore containing a very nice expensive book. First couple years I called to ask who the sender was, they read back my name to me. I asked them to describe the purchaser, it took a bit of doing but indeed someone remember them and described what I look like. I've never been to New York or the Strand, bu…

That was me. I am you. I'm welcome.

Re: New York's Strand bookstore fights back over landmark status

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Always interesting to see how alleged progressives seem to care more about buildings than about people. If the Strand loses their case I guess I can look forward to visiting the "historic" Chipotle, Starbucks, Walgreens, or bank that takes its place.

The only mentioned cost is that they can't change the sign without review. If a business is going to go bust because they couldn't change their sign on a dime, the business probably wasn't viable in the first place. This reads like a conservative business owner being annoyed that a government body is existing and doing its job well, which I suppose is a common sentiment. Also, the LPC has nothing to do with 'progress…

The cost is the change in value of the building.

Re: New York's Strand bookstore fights back over landmark status

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post #9
post #4

Always interesting to see how alleged progressives seem to care more about buildings than about people. If the Strand loses their case I guess I can look forward to visiting the "historic" Chipotle, Starbucks, Walgreens, or bank that takes its place.

The only mentioned cost is that they can't change the sign without review. If a business is going to go bust because they couldn't change their sign on a dime, the business probably wasn't viable in the first place. This reads like a conservative business owner being annoyed that a government body is existing and doing its job well, which I suppose is a common sentiment. Also, the LPC has nothing to do with 'progress…

Changing the signage is an example of how deep the restrictions run. “The restrictions are so great they even include signage,” is how I read the paragraph. I did not read the paragraph as “the restrictions are minor for example a trivial restriction on signage.“

Re: New York's Strand bookstore fights back over landmark status

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Is it weird that my first thought reading this article was the episode of Freakanomics where they talked about how putting animals on the endangered species list caused the price for their hides/mounted heads to go through the roof, and indirectly increase the demand and likelihood of poaching? It's very sad that so many ways we go about trying to preserve history end up promoting it's destruction.

The requisite posting of the Cobra effect whenever something like this comes up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect

Didn’t know it had a name, thanks!

Re: New York's Strand bookstore fights back over landmark status

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post #4

Always interesting to see how alleged progressives seem to care more about buildings than about people. If the Strand loses their case I guess I can look forward to visiting the "historic" Chipotle, Starbucks, Walgreens, or bank that takes its place.

The only mentioned cost is that they can't change the sign without review. If a business is going to go bust because they couldn't change their sign on a dime, the business probably wasn't viable in the first place. This reads like a conservative business owner being annoyed that a government body is existing and doing its job well, which I suppose is a common sentiment. Also, the LPC has nothing to do with 'progress…

It's highly unlikely that a wealthy NYC bookstore owner who is married to Ron Wyden is also conservative.

Re: New York's Strand bookstore fights back over landmark status

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Every year around a certain date, the meaning of which is opaque to me, I receive a package sent from the Strand bookstore containing a very nice expensive book. First couple years I called to ask who the sender was, they read back my name to me. I asked them to describe the purchaser, it took a bit of doing but indeed someone remember them and described what I look like. I've never been to New York or the Strand, bu…

Clearly you from the future with an encoded message in the book.

Re: New York's Strand bookstore fights back over landmark status

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Every year around a certain date, the meaning of which is opaque to me, I receive a package sent from the Strand bookstore containing a very nice expensive book. First couple years I called to ask who the sender was, they read back my name to me. I asked them to describe the purchaser, it took a bit of doing but indeed someone remember them and described what I look like. I've never been to New York or the Strand, bu…

Unironically, this could be a great movie idea.

Re: New York's Strand bookstore fights back over landmark status

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I fully support landmarking buildings -- it's in the public interest, for future generations, and I still lament the loss of the old Penn Station.

And many times (usually?) it's uncontested -- current owners find value in its historical authenticity, and any future buyer is well aware they can't change it.

BUT -- in the case of a functioning business that has no need for the status and finds it harmful for business reasons, it does seem unfair and unconstitutional.

The remedy seems clear: if the city wants to preserve it for future generations (good), then the city should pay the Strand for whatever additional expenses or lost revenue a neutral arbiter judges is fair. It won't be perfect, but it would be due process to make it constitutional.

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Every year around a certain date, the meaning of which is opaque to me, I receive a package sent from the Strand bookstore containing a very nice expensive book. First couple years I called to ask who the sender was, they read back my name to me. I asked them to describe the purchaser, it took a bit of doing but indeed someone remember them and described what I look like. I've never been to New York or the Strand, bu…

That was me. I am you. I'm welcome.

Thank me.

Re: New York's Strand bookstore fights back over landmark status

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Every year around a certain date, the meaning of which is opaque to me, I receive a package sent from the Strand bookstore containing a very nice expensive book. First couple years I called to ask who the sender was, they read back my name to me. I asked them to describe the purchaser, it took a bit of doing but indeed someone remember them and described what I look like. I've never been to New York or the Strand, bu…

If your name is atypical, maybe they looked you up on social media and described you based on that? Or maybe you're a very generic looking individual.
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