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Stick to facts please.
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Stick to facts please.
We don't know the facts. This absolutely might be leading to genocide. The fact that they are cutting social media is even more evidence it might go in that direction.
> Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in Southern Turkey It's kind of incredible how that head line are so terrifying. The only explanation for this is that people don't want information getting out of that area. It's so fucked up. Maybe this is a bit naive to say but I really hate that this is just how things are. We all know what's going to happen and there's nothing that can be done about it. It d…
Wouldn't Starlink by Space X solve this? Authoritarian govs. would make it illegal to subscribe... but like VPNs it would be very hard to police, even harder.
Radio is difficult if not impossible to block with clever operators. The system is known.
Satellite will always be subject to whoever is in power at the time and it won't work within a building.
If you want to get information in and out the best option is—and possible always will be–a network of skilled radio operators.
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“Hey, Turkish ISPs? This is the government. We’re gonna need you to black hole some BGP routes or else. Thanks.”
I’m sure this would be happening in any country. Even USA. I’m not defending Turkey here though.
Echoing another comment: does anyone here know how this block is implemented? Is it a DNS block?
Turkey used to implement DNS blocks but these days (because people learned to quickly circumvent DNS blocks by Google or OpenDNS) they straight up don't route the IPs.
Blocking twitter, fb, and other tools, was their only chance to get information. i don't say all the information on those platforms are %100 correct but still, they are better then government provided.
Also imagine that, people on that area are just close to the border, yesterday two bombs dropped and 9 people died, 48 people injured and that is just the beginning. there was only social media for them to speak out now they don't. I don't usually follow the press but just because this is a fckng war, i read some news and articles. I can say that, if those people don't distribute the news or stuff happening there, I'm pretty sure the world will not know what is going on there and they will continue to create their own stories.
I'm still shocked at how thoroughly the United States betrayed the groups like YPG that we were working with months ago. Destroying fortifications on the Syrian border [1], providing intel to Turkey. There's an official denial of a "green light", but it's pretty clear that that's exactly what it was -- a surprise withdrawal and support ahead of Turkey's offensive. U.S. hardware, support, and consent. It might as well…
> [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/09/world/middleeast/turkey-a.... ("Because of an American counterterrorism partnership with Turkey, Turkish aircraft were given access to a suite of American battlefield intelligence in northeast Syria.")
That is related to this: https://twitter.com/hashtag/securitymechanism?src=hashtag_cl...
The agreement was supposed to protect the Kurdish groups from a Turkish offensive by de-escalating the areas that the US had deemed "safe", while providing an umbrella of US control.
Trump then disgustingly yanked the umbrella away and let the Turks have at it.
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We don't know the facts. This absolutely might be leading to genocide. The fact that they are cutting social media is even more evidence it might go in that direction.
You referring BBC as a safe source. I offer you to watch this whole video. You may see how prejudiced BBC is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdRIr0QFOqk
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Seems like a fair threat to me. Turkey has been bearing the burden of accommodating the majority of Syrian refugees. If Europe blocks its efforts to stabilize a part of Syria so it can repatriate Syrians, it seems logical to tell Europe "if you won't support our solution, you should share the cost of accommodating the refugees".
> Turkey has been bearing the burden of accommodating the majority of Syrian refugees. Are you aware that this is wholly down to a deal between the EU and Turkey which includes, amongst others, payments of about 6bn EUR to Turkey?
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/jun/19/gaziantep-tur...
I'm still shocked at how thoroughly the United States betrayed the groups like YPG that we were working with months ago. Destroying fortifications on the Syrian border [1], providing intel to Turkey. There's an official denial of a "green light", but it's pretty clear that that's exactly what it was -- a surprise withdrawal and support ahead of Turkey's offensive. U.S. hardware, support, and consent. It might as well…
I'm more shocked at comments like yours that get echoed and promoted without any context whatsoever, but then again "Anti-Turkishism" is a thing. What I'm shocked about is how a so called ally can side and arm a vowed terrorist group for years and expect there to be no fallout, but then "Pro-Kurdishism" is a thing. I do love however the narrative that the Kurds are this angelic force that helped us when no other woul…