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The Nobel Peace Prize 2019

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Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2019

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I will see Greta in Denver Friday afternoon at a climate rally. She is young and a voice of her generation. Many future possibilities for her and repairing the climate crisis. I respect the Nobels decision to award the prize to this peace broker. So many global issues that need attention.

Up front I just have to say that this comment is not meant as a criticism of the choice. These are just my loose thoughts on the particulars of this prize. Without wanting to say anything about this year’s winner (if only because of a lack of my personal knowledge which, to be honest, is probably embarrasing): The prize has sometimes been awarded in a very aspirational way, i.e. not so much for past work, but more as…

Other Nobel Prizes sometimes do get awarded decades after the research they're rewarding, in order to see the impact of the result, whether it actually turned out to be true, etc. I wouldn't mind if they did something similar with the Peace Prize.

Obama's prize, for example, was clearly too early. Although it would have worked if it had been given to the American voter instead. To elect a black president in a country with such a history of extreme racism against black people, that's a fantastic step forward. But it was the voters who did that. Awarding it for getting elected, or even for that nice speech that Obama made, it feels like that's a bit of a thin reason.

Similarly, I know a lot of people would like to have seen it go to Greta Thunberg, and it would have been a lot more deserved than some other recipients, but I still think it's better to wait a year, to see the real impact she's had.

I also imagined that if Greta had gotten it, she might have given an angry speech that she doesn't want awards, she wants people to act, and I would have agreed.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2019

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Great choice, his unexpected acceptance of the Algiers Agreement terms gave so much hope for the region. This is what the Nobel Peace Price was originally intended for.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2019

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I will see Greta in Denver Friday afternoon at a climate rally. She is young and a voice of her generation. Many future possibilities for her and repairing the climate crisis. I respect the Nobels decision to award the prize to this peace broker. So many global issues that need attention.

Are you talking about Greta Thunberg, I would think so, I don't know enough about her, what do you recommend from her? I fail to see what or why she is important, we are past good speech in terms of ecology, what actions does she recommends?

She recommends to panic.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2019

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Up front I just have to say that this comment is not meant as a criticism of the choice. These are just my loose thoughts on the particulars of this prize. Without wanting to say anything about this year’s winner (if only because of a lack of my personal knowledge which, to be honest, is probably embarrasing): The prize has sometimes been awarded in a very aspirational way, i.e. not so much for past work, but more as…

Other Nobel Prizes sometimes do get awarded decades after the research they're rewarding, in order to see the impact of the result, whether it actually turned out to be true, etc. I wouldn't mind if they did something similar with the Peace Prize. Obama's prize, for example, was clearly too early. Although it would have worked if it had been given to the American voter instead. To elect a black president in a country…

Obama's prize was basically a collective sigh of relief of him not being Bush more than anything. The amount of celebration over Obama's win by non-Americans was at a level I've never seen before.

Expect a similar sigh of relief once Trump goes, though perhaps a bit more muted because we're more cynical about what will come next by now.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2019

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you talking about Greta Thunberg, I would think so, I don't know enough about her, what do you recommend from her? I fail to see what or why she is important, we are past good speech in terms of ecology, what actions does she recommends?

She recommends to panic.

That's not really a truthful reading of what she is communicating.

Re: The Nobel Peace Prize 2019

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Well, this is a much less controversial choice compared to the Nobel Prize in Literature 2019.

From a global perspective, awarding two European writers yet again is just a failure.

From a purely literary perspective, Handke is a great and influential writer, who was a hot candidate for a long time. For his work, I think the award is justified.

On a personal level, his ex-wife accused him of physical abuse, he held a eulogy for a war criminal, was known for cursing and berating his audience, ...

If he still should have received it regardless depends on a difficult value judgement: do you purely choose based on a writers work, or does his personality influence the decision?

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