Well, this is a much less controversial choice compared to the Nobel Prize in Literature 2019.
The list of people who were passed over the Literature prize is more distinguished than those it was granted to.
The Nobel Peace Prize 2019
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#12I will see Greta in Denver Friday afternoon at a climate rally. She is young and a voice of her generation. Many future possibilities for her and repairing the climate crisis. I respect the Nobels decision to award the prize to this peace broker. So many global issues that need attention.
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#13I will see Greta in Denver Friday afternoon at a climate rally. She is young and a voice of her generation. Many future possibilities for her and repairing the climate crisis. I respect the Nobels decision to award the prize to this peace broker. So many global issues that need attention.
Yes, the prize is meant for actions during 2018. Greta rose to prominence this year.
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#14I will see Greta in Denver Friday afternoon at a climate rally. She is young and a voice of her generation. Many future possibilities for her and repairing the climate crisis. I respect the Nobels decision to award the prize to this peace broker. So many global issues that need attention.
Are you talking about Greta Thunberg, I would think so, I don't know enough about her, what do you recommend from her?
I fail to see what or why she is important, we are past good speech in terms of ecology, what actions does she recommends?
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#15I will see Greta in Denver Friday afternoon at a climate rally. She is young and a voice of her generation. Many future possibilities for her and repairing the climate crisis. I respect the Nobels decision to award the prize to this peace broker. So many global issues that need attention.
Are you talking about Greta Thunberg, I would think so, I don't know enough about her, what do you recommend from her? I fail to see what or why she is important, we are past good speech in terms of ecology, what actions does she recommends?
Of course. She is creating a lot of attention for the mismatch between scientists' (in particular IPCC) insights and recommendations and politicians (in)actions and failure to reach the goals they set themselves.
> what actions does she recommend
She recommends we listen to the science. Nothing more, nothing less.
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#16The depressing zeitgeist going on everywhere honestly makes me wonder if he would be able to freely make any remarks in support of Hong Kong vs. China without having this prize revoked.
I don't see why not? The prizes are handed out by the Nobel foundation, which is independent of government, and as far as I know, financially self-sustaining, so there are no sponsors to upset, and no government that has oversight.
-That they are, but by foreign powers (China is not the only one!), its independence is often cast in doubt. Doubly so as the Norwegian parliament elect members to the Nobel committee, and they tend to choose has-been politicians to put them out to pasture.
The result being that while the committee is nominally independent, its ties to government are strong enough for China, for instance, to put relations with Norway in the freezer for several years after Liu Xiaobo was awarded the prize in 2010.
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#17Well, this is a much less controversial choice compared to the Nobel Prize in Literature 2019.
The list of people who were passed over the Literature prize is more distinguished than those it was granted to.
This year's winner called for the Literature prize to be abolished a few years ago. I can't help but agree with him on that.
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#18Congratulations to PM Abiy on this exceedingly deserved award. Quite frankly, I was surprised it had not been awarded to him last year.
Hear, hear! He's done a lot to promote a peaceful and democratic society and deserves the accolades.
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#19I will see Greta in Denver Friday afternoon at a climate rally. She is young and a voice of her generation. Many future possibilities for her and repairing the climate crisis. I respect the Nobels decision to award the prize to this peace broker. So many global issues that need attention.
Up front I just have to say that this comment is not meant as a criticism of the choice. These are just my loose thoughts on the particulars of this prize.
Without wanting to say anything about this year’s winner (if only because of a lack of my personal knowledge which, to be honest, is probably embarrasing): The prize has sometimes been awarded in a very aspirational way, i.e. not so much for past work, but more as an encouragement based on not so much past work. I view giving the award to Obama in that way, for example.
I do think that’s a valid and potentially valuable approach to giving out the prize. I’m not sure giving the prize to someone decades after they did something important is very useful, especially for such an overtly political prize. I do think that the Nobel Peace Prize has to dare to be brave and also dare to be wrong. It should not pick safe choices where a wide consensus has already formed.
Of course I also can see the other side, too: If you are wrong too often you risk becoming a joke and irrelevant, all encouragement is for nothing. So this is a hard problem to solve. But still: overall I think being daring is the right approach for a prize such as this. That the goal is to say with the prize: “We want to support the great work this person is doing right now, right in this moment!”
In that light I’m quite tolerant to some missteps if the Peace Prize is willing to be brave and get right into the fray, also of things that are still hotly contested.
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#20Well, this is a much less controversial choice compared to the Nobel Prize in Literature 2019.
The literature price committee's has zero credibility after the scandal.
The nominations are just trying to signal something related to the functioning of committee. Let's pick man and a woman who signal we are better people now, somehow.