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What Happens to the Body on No Sleep

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Post by brador »

LeonB wrote: post #205
brador wrote: post #204

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Truth is the solution to your problems is a 2 page bullet pointed list of actionable items that work. For which you wouldn’t even pay $1 because there’s no way to verify the information before buying and once it’s out it’s out so there’s no profit in creating it. Solve it yourself or throw real money at the problem if you actually care.

I have just such a 2 page bullet point list here: https://til.secretgeek.net/sleep/Getting_to_sleep_and_stayin... Also recommend Meditation, PMR (progressive muscle relaxation) and listening to binaural beats (via Spotify). And wish you well :)

5 and 6 clash. 10 is wrong. Binaurals foster dependency, do not use. Add focused breathing.

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Post by freshbagels »

K0SM0S wrote: post #190
miscellaneous wrote: post #83

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Thank you for the detailed and interesting comment. I wish I could maintain my productivity for extended periods of time like you do. Unfortunately I find that my cognitive abilities drop-off very quickly when become tired. Also you talk of an 'intelligence switch'. Could you explain what you mean by that?

Sure. It might be quite long if I really explained in detail, though. I really need to write the book of that eventually. Here's the very incomplete gist of it. The idea of an intelligence switch is basically a set of methods, a system, to train and foster the use of some "meta" forms of intelligence so to speak, whose primary purpose is to improve / enable / train intelligence itself. It's very much not a hack (effo…

I'd love to read a blog post/book explaining this in more detail.

I'm also interested in hearing more about the 'happiness switch', and how you trained yourself in your 20s to work for 12~16 hours a day.

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Post by TwoHeadedBeast »

IIAOPSW wrote: post #120
makz wrote: post #64

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One day I could not compile something. After fighting it several hours I decided to go sleep. A few minutes before waking up I dreamed that the solution was to set an environment variable. I even saw the specific variable and which value I had to set. I woke up and immediately tried it. It worked.

Imagine a future where we have engineered this effect to perfection, and even in your dreams you are expected to work. The effect would be an increase in the supply of labor, without an increase in the population. Wages would be depressed. There would be at least some people who have no reprieve, no moment to themselves, just so they can make it to the next paycheck and survive. 24 hour wage slaves. A human shaped co…

Or alternatively, we get all our work done in our sleep, and conscious time is devoted to leisure.

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Post by setnone »

My experience with no sleep happened as a part of 21 day Vipasana meditation retreat. So on the 15th day after constant practice we had to face what they called Determination — 3 days with no sleep, not leaving the room, doing 1hr walking meditation / 1 hr sitting meditation / 1 hr rest, all over again. As far as i remember the point was to keep all the gained mindfulness and awareness in the counciouness and do not let subcounciouness which acitivates as we fall asleep to kind of ruin the whole practice. It was an intense process guided by the teacher, with new exercises each day, basically some variations of breath counting.

It was difficult mentally but not so much phisically and after just a night of sleep i felt amazingly fresh.

I like to think that those 3 days of a guided practice with no sleep was the key ingridient to let the meditation become the part of my existense.

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Post by jason_slack »

I don't sleep, I guess this is called "short sleeping". I have been this way my entire life. Frustrated my family growing up and still today, age 42, is hard for my family sometimes.

I sleep 3-4 hours most days, but lately just 2 hours each day. It's like clockwork. I've actually been up for 30 hours already.

What makes me different? Anyone have research or thoughts on this?

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Post by jason_slack »

setnone wrote: post #214

My experience with no sleep happened as a part of 21 day Vipasana meditation retreat. So on the 15th day after constant practice we had to face what they called Determination — 3 days with no sleep, not leaving the room, doing 1hr walking meditation / 1 hr sitting meditation / 1 hr rest, all over again. As far as i remember the point was to keep all the gained mindfulness and awareness in the counciouness and do not…

I love Vipassana retreats. I've done a few long ones too.

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Post by antocv »

bbot23 wrote: post #210

This might be a longshot given the age of the post, but does anyone have anything to say about OVERsleeping? This is anecdodal but over the years I've internalized how important sleep is and have been able to regularly get 8+ hours of sleep. What I've noticed is that I get more "emotionally" lethargic - level-headed when something should be stressful, which is a good thing, but also very calm and collected when somet…

Oversleep leads to lazyness and sadness, or introversion and contemplatency. Or, it was just those teenage years, but when I was 16 and 18, I used to sleep 14h per day.

This contemplating mood lasted throughout the day, only to disappear and be replaced by ambition and will, many creative ideas late in the evening, just before it was time to sleep again.

8-10 hours is perfect, just enough to retain the creativity and motivation for the next morning which was gathered during the evening. Sleep longer than 12h, and feel so comfortable to just contemplate things without willing to do anything else but think and feel.

When I sleep less than 8h, all effects as described in article happen.

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Post by kzzzznot »

jason_slack wrote: post #215

I don't sleep, I guess this is called "short sleeping". I have been this way my entire life. Frustrated my family growing up and still today, age 42, is hard for my family sometimes. I sleep 3-4 hours most days, but lately just 2 hours each day. It's like clockwork. I've actually been up for 30 hours already. What makes me different? Anyone have research or thoughts on this?

How are your general energy levels, memory, mood? I can’t provide any research or thoughts on your case I’m afraid but I expect others who may be able to would need this information.

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Post by sleepwalker »

wildduck wrote: post #105
makz wrote: post #64

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One day I could not compile something. After fighting it several hours I decided to go sleep. A few minutes before waking up I dreamed that the solution was to set an environment variable. I even saw the specific variable and which value I had to set. I woke up and immediately tried it. It worked.

That's the exact reason why we should have beds at work and not have regular working hours. People should just work and sleep whenever they want as long as they make meetings and project deadlines.

I work from home coding, sometimes went onsite. If I'm stuck on a problem with some code which a walk or short break didn't solve, a sleep would usually solve it, hence the saying "sleep on it". I'd even sleep during the day for half an hour or a few hours just to get the answer. I've also been awake for 80hrs doing a windows server upgrade which failed horribly but I put that down to the system being hacked. Felt like a zombie, but strong tea and hard water calcium rich near London so possibly also contains unmetabolized cocaine in, played its part in being able to stay awake for that long.

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Post by jason_slack »

kzzzznot wrote: post #218
jason_slack wrote: post #215

I don't sleep, I guess this is called "short sleeping". I have been this way my entire life. Frustrated my family growing up and still today, age 42, is hard for my family sometimes. I sleep 3-4 hours most days, but lately just 2 hours each day. It's like clockwork. I've actually been up for 30 hours already. What makes me different? Anyone have research or thoughts on this?

How are your general energy levels, memory, mood? I can’t provide any research or thoughts on your case I’m afraid but I expect others who may be able to would need this information.

My sleep has been reducing, strangely. I used to get 4.5 hours or so, then 4, then 3.5, etc. Recently I'm on 2.

I feel fantastic every day. I get up without an alarm. I don't need caffeine, I work hard, I take care of the kids, cook, etc. Should mention that I eat a lot of blueberries, avocados, fish, tea, turmeric, etc.

Memory is fine, I don't forget or have trouble recalling details. Usually. Sometimes I forget an API call, but don't we all?

My mood is always positive/euphoric. Some days I'm a bit grumpy but its usually because I'm bogged down in tasks and trying to do a lot at one time and I really just want to put these chores aside and do something more enjoyable.

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