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China attacks Apple for allowing Hong Kong crowdsourced police activity app

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Post by scarface74 »

strken wrote: post #209
scarface74 wrote: post #200

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A status symbol is something that shows that you can afford something other people can’t. Almost anyone in the US who is on one of the four major carriers can afford an iPhone. Have you ever thought that people might actually prefer it’s functionality?

I'm from Australia. The reason I call it a US status symbol is because of the observably different attitudes in different countries, not because I've got an axe to grind. I understand that most of the Americans who use iPhones do actually like them, but there's a perception of Android as a budget option and iPhone as a premium option that I found to be less common in Australia. I quite like the iPhone and I've consid…

Android is the budget option. The average worldwide selling price of an Android phone is about $400 less than an iPhone. Why get a cheap Android phone when the price difference over a 24 month interest free payment plan is $11/month?

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Post by K0SM0S »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #204
K0SM0S wrote: post #190

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Not a device or product but open-source though... for me as a dev, or tech nerd, or advocate of freedoms / defender of rights, or just as an aware citizen, you know... open-source matters to a fundamental layer of our digital-izing civilization.

It does, but that requires a lot of tech literacy - much more than someone who cares if they can use iMessage or not to chat with their friends.

You mean it's my "tech literacy" (category) that is part of my identity, and I'm merely specifying my colors (property) within that category. Gotcha, agreed. Thanks for this insight!

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Post by dragonsngoblins »

pdimitar wrote: post #28
Mikeb85 wrote: post #11

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Except everyone assembles phones in China. A dip for Apple is Huawei's gain, and they're entirely based in China.

People buy devices cheaper than the iPhone either because they cannot afford it or because they disagree with Apple somewhere. First group doesn't really have a choice and the second group has no interest in an iPhone.

Eh. I buy an Android because it suits my usage better. I do also disagree with Apple's philosophy but that honestly isn't why I don't have one. I used to have an iPhone when Androids weren't as good feature wise for my use case even though I disagreed with Apple philosophically and disliked OSX, but since then iTunes has gotten more bloated and Android hardware has gotten better.

Being able to use my phone like a USB stick/manage music and audio books and things is a huge point in Android's favour for example.

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Post by sushid »

moggie2 wrote: post #67

Title is kinda misleading. A more accurate but longer one is like 'China state media journalist accused Apple approving app that aid violent protesters from evading police" Which similarly, it also happens on the other part of the world? E.g) US? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/06/nyregion/waze-nypd-locati... https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/01/28/382013185...

Uh, the Chinese state media journalist is speaking on behalf of the government. Do you think the journalists there build their career by being a maverick known for investigative journalism?

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Post by bashinator »

nanoservices wrote: post #141
bashinator wrote: post #135

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But you do trust Google for privacy?

You'll have to trust someone. Both Google & Apple are in the same boat in that respect. My main reason to switch to Apple is the consistency. I am getting sick and tired of Google killing app after app I rely on only to release a new one with half the features. At this point I'm willing to shell out the extra money even though I agree that Apple hardware is borderline rip off levels of pricing.

> Both Google & Apple are in the same boat in that respect.

I have to disagree here - Google explicitly monetizes their information on your activity on the Internet, Apple does not.

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Post by computerex »

dkonofalski wrote: post #48
vermontdevil wrote: post #36

Apple is going to cave. And it’ll set a worse precedent because other governments are going to demand backdoors etc.

If Apple didn't cave to the US government, what makes you think they're going to cave to China?

Because Apple has no spine and routinely caves to pressure by the Chinese government?
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