China hit by EU tariffs on steel road wheels

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Post by avocado4 » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 6:48 PM UTC

China hit by EU tariffs on steel road wheels
bloomberg.com

Re: China hit by EU tariffs on steel road wheels

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Post by NicoJuicy » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 6:59 PM UTC

Not a very big one, but at least it's something ( a start) to protect our market from Chinese dumping.

We should just force the same rules on them at once. Only import into Europe with 50% European partnerships, for China.

If they become more flexible, so should we. Instead of waiting more than 20 years currently.

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Post by uncoder0 » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 7:52 PM UTC

NicoJuicy wrote: post #2

Not a very big one, but at least it's something ( a start) to protect our market from Chinese dumping. We should just force the same rules on them at once. Only import into Europe with 50% European partnerships, for China. If they become more flexible, so should we. Instead of waiting more than 20 years currently.

I really don't know why that hasn't been done from the start to all Chinese companies in every country.

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:32 PM UTC

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Post by vegan_zaddy » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:35 PM UTC

NicoJuicy wrote: post #2

Not a very big one, but at least it's something ( a start) to protect our market from Chinese dumping. We should just force the same rules on them at once. Only import into Europe with 50% European partnerships, for China. If they become more flexible, so should we. Instead of waiting more than 20 years currently.

What do you mean by "Chinese dumping"? It would probably be best to maintain productive economic relations with China and I don't think this is it.

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Post by NicoJuicy » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:49 PM UTC

vegan_zaddy wrote: post #5

NicoJuicy wrote: post #2

Not a very big one, but at least it's something ( a start) to protect our market from Chinese dumping. We should just force the same rules on them at once. Only import into Europe with 50% European partnerships, for China. If they become more flexible, so should we. Instead of waiting more than 20 years currently.

What do you mean by "Chinese dumping"? It would probably be best to maintain productive economic relations with China and I don't think this is it.

Productive economic relations for both sides, yes.

But currently it isn't and we have given a chance the last 20-30 years, so we should adapt to that situation.

It has been mostly a one way road.

Recent events have also shown that no true progress will be made in the foreseeable future. ( What China says vs do's is very different)

My suggestion is fair, how it is now isn't.

Ps. Nice throwaway account.... Perhaps use a real account for discussing things and try at least to have some arguments :). I'm always open to adapt my opinion, if someone has usefull arguments ofc.

Re: China hit by EU tariffs on steel road wheels

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Post by vegan_zaddy » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 8:58 PM UTC

NicoJuicy wrote: post #6

vegan_zaddy wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "Chinese dumping"? It would probably be best to maintain productive economic relations with China and I don't think this is it.

Productive economic relations for both sides, yes. But currently it isn't and we have given a chance the last 20-30 years, so we should adapt to that situation. It has been mostly a one way road. Recent events have also shown that no true progress will be made in the foreseeable future. ( What China says vs do's is very different) My suggestion is fair, how it is now isn't. Ps. Nice throwaway account.... Perhaps use…

Because "Chinese dumping" has no value and is meaningless. How is it not right now? China has provided many inexpensive consumer goods for the US and the US has provided a lot of jobs for China. Trump is pushing the trade war (and failing) and priming US citizens for full blown war. It is painfully obvious who is and isn't playing fair.

Re: China hit by EU tariffs on steel road wheels

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Post by NicoJuicy » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:08 PM UTC

vegan_zaddy wrote: post #7

NicoJuicy wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Productive economic relations for both sides, yes. But currently it isn't and we have given a chance the last 20-30 years, so we should adapt to that situation. It has been mostly a one way road. Recent events have also shown that no true progress will be made in the foreseeable future. ( What China says vs do's is very different) My suggestion is fair, how it is now isn't. Ps. Nice throwaway account.... Perhaps use…

Because "Chinese dumping" has no value and is meaningless. How is it not right now? China has provided many inexpensive consumer goods for the US and the US has provided a lot of jobs for China. Trump is pushing the trade war (and failing) and priming US citizens for full blown war. It is painfully obvious who is and isn't playing fair.

Where is he failing on this? I hate Trump, but even a faulty clock is right 2 times a day.

You do know what dumping means right? It's not inexpensive consumer goods ( which the Chinese have also benefitted from). It's about destroying foreign markets/industries by a state-sponsored pricing policy.

Oh yeah. And dumping policies actually costs domestic jobs. So counter-measures are appropriate.

And since this article you are commenting on, is a measure against dumping, it is not meaningless and a perfect explanation for your question: "What do you mean by "Chinese dumping"?

Oh boy... The reason why you are using a throwaway account is pretty obvious.

I hope you're getting paid for this.

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Post by SamReidHughes » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 10:10 PM UTC

vegan_zaddy wrote: post #5

NicoJuicy wrote: post #2

Not a very big one, but at least it's something ( a start) to protect our market from Chinese dumping. We should just force the same rules on them at once. Only import into Europe with 50% European partnerships, for China. If they become more flexible, so should we. Instead of waiting more than 20 years currently.

What do you mean by "Chinese dumping"? It would probably be best to maintain productive economic relations with China and I don't think this is it.

Economic Dumping.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumping_(pricing_policy)

Re: China hit by EU tariffs on steel road wheels

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Post by canada_dry » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 11:11 PM UTC

> opening an inquiry into whether Chinese producers of hot-rolled, stainless-steel sheets and coils receive market-distorting government aid.

The elephant-in-the-room wrt all of China's heavy industry is the utter lack of regulations and controls (human and environmental) that put them at an incredibly unfair position - without needing any additional subsidy from the gov't. Their production costs are a fraction of any developed country.