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Re: Broken

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Post by yabadabadoes » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:01 PM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #171

zanny wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It absolutely isn't the individual employee developers job or responsibility to try to fix corporate culture. Almost anyone on here or reading this is a line worker developer and trying to take on the job responsibilities of C level staff is setting yourself up for disappointment and failure. Any company larger than a few dozen people is entrenched - there will be a hierarchy and the top will dictate the order of thi…

I think the issue is that culture at Apple is very much not supposed to be this, and this probably isn’t what the C-suite is intending to push. So you’re not really going against them; rather, you’re going with them but against the current status quo.

In the sense that everyone wants cake and to eat it sure.. But really everything anyone wants is stack ranked and their management prefers the apple demo to the world format long after the luster has gone in no small part because of the secrecy, silos and paranoia it requires. In a financial sense their management is right and an employee wanting to be part of something less bland and Oracle like is wrong.

Re: Broken

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Post by CrazyStat » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:02 PM UTC

amanzi wrote: post #176

navidkhn1 wrote: post #24

I'm not sure if anyone has seen this yet, but Catalina is letting me login without entering my password! I have two users on my machine. 1. I "lock screen" from the Apple menu and close the lid. 2. I reopen the lid and it does not ask for password. 3. I start using laptop and lock screen suddenly pops up, but asks password for the wrong user. 4. I hit random key and the screen goes away, and i can continue working. A…

I've never seen a bug like that on Windows. Honestly, it feels like a lot of Mac users live in a bubble where Windows is a buggy pile of crap. Meanwhile most Windows users around the world are getting on with life on a stable OS with a great choice of hardware. While nothing's perfect, Windows is in a really good place at the moment.

You must not have ever used Windows 98.

Re: Broken

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Post by IshKebab » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:03 PM UTC

snapples wrote: post #131

Things are so broken here at Apple. I joined about 4 years ago. I am awed by the fact that we manage to release any software at all, let alone functional software. The biggest problem is communication. No one fucking communicates. - No communication between orgs. Tons of bureaucratic tape to cut through just to get a hand on someone working on a different product - Barely any communication between teams. Literally ev…

I used to work at Dyson and it was a similar story. I think the secrecy thing is key. They went on and on about "protecting our secrets" (ha) and operating on a need-to-know basis. It just meant communication was really bad, and getting help from anyone who didn't know you was impossible.

Re: Broken

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Post by MisterOctober » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:03 PM UTC

blunte wrote: post #203

It's all very depressing. Like most of us here, I have become increasingly frustrated with the state of Mac (touch bar, bad keyboards, odd choices that fit neither creators nor developers well, and so on). No point rehashing it all. But where does that leave us? I spent a year on Windows 10 not so long ago, on upper end laptop hardware with HiDPI screen, and it was less fun and more problem prone than macOS - especia…

I switched from macOS to Linux [Fedora now] about a year and a half ago, out of the same frustrations that affect a lotta folks --

It took a little while to adjust, but since there are a lot of similarities between the Linux and Darwin command lines [and Linux package management being better than homebrew by my lights] , it wasn't very long before I was like "Damn, why didn't I switch 20 years ago!!!" Plus now my hardware works [edit : and is user-serviceable], is reasonably ergonomic, and OS updates don't break my existing programs...

Re: Broken

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Post by zanny » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:03 PM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #171

zanny wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It absolutely isn't the individual employee developers job or responsibility to try to fix corporate culture. Almost anyone on here or reading this is a line worker developer and trying to take on the job responsibilities of C level staff is setting yourself up for disappointment and failure. Any company larger than a few dozen people is entrenched - there will be a hierarchy and the top will dictate the order of thi…

I think the issue is that culture at Apple is very much not supposed to be this, and this probably isn’t what the C-suite is intending to push. So you’re not really going against them; rather, you’re going with them but against the current status quo.

If upper management wants culture to change they will take the action necessary to change it. The last people to be powerless to inflict change on a corporation are the executives running said business.

Re: Broken

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Post by jdance » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:03 PM UTC

macinjosh wrote: post #123

I've been using Catalina as a daily driver since the first beta. I did notice some bugs here and there but I have to say my take away was different. I did get the barrage of permission prompts but it was just like that the one time and while it was a bit overwhelming it made me feel good that my OS was keeping tabs on these things. With Apple's emphasis on privacy they had to build these sort of controls into macOS t…

Seems you didn't read the post very carefully, author did everything he could except using a separate apple id.

Re: Broken

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Post by elondaits » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:04 PM UTC

rubbingalcohol wrote: post #69

Diederich wrote: post #25

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Huh, does that work? I didn't realize that one could actually revert mid install. Let us know. (:

you can't. once it finishes downloading and reboots into the update screen you can't go back. Catalina seems to at least have broken the ability to create symlinks in the root folder. So no more `cd /htdocs` on my laptop.

Use the CDPATH environment variable and you'll be able to CD to your regularly used directories from anywhere:

https://jcode.me/cdpath-with-zsh/

much much saner than having your user files in the root directory, and works the same in any OS.

Re: Broken

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Post by mring33621 » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:04 PM UTC

blunte wrote: post #203

It's all very depressing. Like most of us here, I have become increasingly frustrated with the state of Mac (touch bar, bad keyboards, odd choices that fit neither creators nor developers well, and so on). No point rehashing it all. But where does that leave us? I spent a year on Windows 10 not so long ago, on upper end laptop hardware with HiDPI screen, and it was less fun and more problem prone than macOS - especia…

I had a Lubuntu installation in virtualbox in win7 that worked just fine for several years, as a java development environment. Just sayin'.

Re: Broken

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Post by layoutIfNeeded » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:06 PM UTC

tpmx wrote: post #45

This is a sure sign that the key people who used to run OS X development have moved on. Probably years ago, and we're just witnessing the gradual atrophy. The maintainers they left in their places probably kept it mostly working for 2-3 years. That is all.

They were the original NeXTSTEP people. Most of them have probably retired, rightfully, but to detrimental effect to macOS...

Re: Broken

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Post by zanny » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 9:06 PM UTC

maximente wrote: post #208

zanny wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It absolutely isn't the individual employee developers job or responsibility to try to fix corporate culture. Almost anyone on here or reading this is a line worker developer and trying to take on the job responsibilities of C level staff is setting yourself up for disappointment and failure. Any company larger than a few dozen people is entrenched - there will be a hierarchy and the top will dictate the order of thi…

disappointing to see this grey, because i think there's a lot of truth in here. i think a lot of developers are used to wielding great power with technology, getting immediate visceral feedback, shipping, and whatever else. this gives them an impression that fixing people problems is just as easy - the equivalent of opening up the ol' IDE and rocking out for 8 uninterrupted hours, getting an MVP up. the differences,…

People really hate to acknowledge that working for most corporations, especially big public tech giants, is not them being welcomed in to change the world and blaze trails but to write code for their boss.