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Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by vixen99 »

specialp wrote: post #62
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

Dyson really got the bagless vacuums to become the dominant vacuum in the USA. I think while it looks cool and relieving to see lots of stuff whirl in a transparent tornado chamber, it is far inferior to actually having a bag. You then have to dump out a dusty dirt container somewhere (hopefully not inside) and clean and sometimes replace an expensive filter. Vacuum bags are pretty cheap, and biodegradable, and much…

Dyson may recommnend a new filter but our's has run for 18 years with no extra purchases of that kind (we clean the filters ourselves. No problem). Brilliant machine and easily the most impressive domestic product we've ever purchased. Greater suction power would likely be dangerous in some circumstances. Not having to replace bags is such a bonus.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by vixen99 »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #75
dabeeeenster wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was very pro-Brexit, then left the country and moved to Singapore.

He tried to extend his mansion stealthily without seeking planning permission. He's been buying up plenty of agricultural land in prevision of Brexit (which he obviously supported)

Without planning permission! Oh my, how utterly evil. However it would seem this appalling transgression might not have been so despicable after all.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3870830/Billionaire...

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by afterburner »

smacktoward wrote: post #177
afterburner wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The v6 is old, if your gf's had it for a while the battery's probably on its last legs, and it didn't last that long to begin with anyways. The more recent models have plenty of battery life.

Just what the world needed, one more thing you have to completely throw out just because the battery's worn...

Battery tech improves. That's just reality.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by mytailorisrich »

vixen99 wrote: post #232
mytailorisrich wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He tried to extend his mansion stealthily without seeking planning permission. He's been buying up plenty of agricultural land in prevision of Brexit (which he obviously supported)

Without planning permission! Oh my, how utterly evil. However it would seem this appalling transgression might not have been so despicable after all. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3870830/Billionaire...

It does say a lot about someone's character. His house is listed so he probably thought he would not get permission. But since money is not an issue for him he thought "fuck it, I'll do what I want", and got away with it.

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Post by war1025 »

bvm wrote: post #125
numbers wrote: post #70

I have 4 Dyson products, besides the hair-dryer, all of the others are bad (can't say they suck b/c that's the main job of 2 of the vacuums and they can't get it done). I bought the dyson air purifier that's cold and hot, it's so bad...works at the same level as a USB fan... The vacuums are loud and look futuristic but can't clean anything properly. Any recommendations for a good vacuum are welcome!

(not sure where you're based but...) a Henry! https://www.numatic.co.uk/products.aspx?r=4&sr=1 They're cheap, they're reliable, you can use them bagged or bagless, they're basically indestructible (our chimney sweep uses a bog standard one for the actual sweeping), if anything does break you can easily repair them, they are really very good at vacuuming. Excellent product, would buy again, if I ever had to.

I really like how they have faces painted on them.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by jimnotgym »

oxplot wrote: post #94
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

> I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products If you've used one and don't get it, you may not be the target audience. On multiple occasions, I've asked a friend of mine to try various products I use which I believe are excellent in many ways, only to be told that they were average or junk compared to what he uses. I believe what he uses mostly to be complete and utter junk! So I don…

I ditched a Dyson cordless for a corded Miele. Doesn't run out in the middle of cleaning, doesn't clog with hair, much more powerful. I think bagged vacuum cleaners are so much less maintenance.

Having a cord is no inconvenience to me, I would rather have the power and indurance.

I also have a problem with Dyson himself...

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by war1025 »

numbers wrote: post #70

I have 4 Dyson products, besides the hair-dryer, all of the others are bad (can't say they suck b/c that's the main job of 2 of the vacuums and they can't get it done). I bought the dyson air purifier that's cold and hot, it's so bad...works at the same level as a USB fan... The vacuums are loud and look futuristic but can't clean anything properly. Any recommendations for a good vacuum are welcome!

We have a Shark Rocket DuoClean [1] and it seems to work pretty well. We lived in an apartment without carpet before moving to our current house, which is 3 stories with carpet.

My mom brought down her old vacuum, plus her Shark vacuum, with the idea that we could keep her old vacuum if we wanted it, but that we could try the vacuum she uses and see if we liked it better.

The old vacuum she had was super heavy and real pain to go up and down the stairs with. The Shark is really light and easy to maneuver. Seems to do a good job vacuuming too.

I remember when she first got it, I figured it was like all the other "As Seen on TV" crap she buys, but it really does seem like a nice vacuum. We've had ours for a little over two years now and are quite happy with it.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Shark-DuoClean-Ultra-Light-Lift-Away-...

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by oh_sigh »

ssully wrote: post #60
oh_sigh wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any evidence he wouldn't have done the same thing if brexitbhad failed? Would Asia stop being an important market if the UK was in the EU?

Again, I have no skin in this game, but if I did then I would say the only thing that matters is what he did do, not what he would have done.

But everything every brexit supporter has done since 2016 could fit that bill. Unless brexit triggered him moving the company to Singapore, it doesnt make sense to count his brexit support as relevant.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by kube-system »

_ea1k wrote: post #68
jordache wrote: post #11

Shocked! This is akin to if a bicycle company tried to build cars, thinking their engineers can simply shift from bicycles to cars...

I get that there are examples of companies that moved from bicycles to cars (or planes), but I doubt there are recent examples. It is much harder to enter the mature automotive market, which is what makes Tesla's accomplishments extraordinary.

AFAIK all mass-market automakers in the US and Europe trace their history to automotive startups in the late 19th century and early 20th century, and Japan and Korea's automakers all formed in the mid 20th century.

I guess China probably has the newest automaker startups outside of Tesla, but they don't have much volume outside of their domestic markets.

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