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#11

Post by clucas »

api wrote: post #3

I have had no issues so far, and I like the permissions requirements as they are allowing at least some privacy improvement. Funny that everyone complains about privacy invasion but then also complains when the needed permissions to protect privacy are introduced.

Reading the post, I didn't get the impression that he was complaining about permission dialog boxes in general, but rather about the specific implementation (including lack of documentation and lack of power-user features) in Catalina.

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Post by GordonS »

I just upgraded to Catalina today on my MBP, and that screenshot of Allow/Deny notifcations hits the nail on the head! Likewise the popups about allowing apps to control other apps - what a wonderful way to introduce me to Catalina!

I mean, come on, there has to be a better way than this, especially from a company supposedly famed for it's user-orientated designs and thinking?

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Post by tylerhall »

clucas wrote: post #11
api wrote: post #3

I have had no issues so far, and I like the permissions requirements as they are allowing at least some privacy improvement. Funny that everyone complains about privacy invasion but then also complains when the needed permissions to protect privacy are introduced.

Reading the post, I didn't get the impression that he was complaining about permission dialog boxes in general, but rather about the specific implementation (including lack of documentation and lack of power-user features) in Catalina.

OP here. Thank you. I have no issues with the tightening of security and permissions on Catalina. In fact, I welcome it both for myself and my aging parents who I want to remain safe online. My issue, as you said, is the implementation and lack of documentation for those of us who do know what we're doing.

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Post by jedberg »

I had the same response when they dropped the live version. I've been using the beta for weeks, and when I heard it went GM I was shocked.

My biggest issue is that the whole computer freezes for about 10 seconds when I activate a dropdown in Safari, Chrome, or Firefox sometimes. It will also freeze everything but audio playback for 10 to 30 seconds when watching videos full screen with VLC. I dunno, maybe it's just me.

But this release is the buggiest .0 release I've ever seen from Apple.

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#16

Post by AlexandrB »

At this point I stay at least one major release behind Apple’s bleeding edge. They’ve been shipping increasingly buggy software on the Mac for years.

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#17

Post by outime »

I can add something to the list which is Sidecar i.e. using an iPad as secondary screen. It was a real nightmare to set it up as it’d not detect the iPad despite meeting all the requirements. I found no fixes online so I had the idea of logout & login again (iCloud) so that it might detect it.

Well, it detected I had an iPad but the connection would time out every single time. After rebooting both the Mac and the iPad (another wild guess) it kind of worked - very laggy and couldn’t use the Mac properly as clicking in e.g. System Preferences would open Finder to show me the app under Applications instead of the actual system preferences panel because of reasons.

It’s truly broken and felt like an alpha version. But this has been the trend with macOS and guess it’ll stay like this unless someone high enough at Apple decides to wake up.

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#18

Post by grzm »

GordonS wrote: post #12

I just upgraded to Catalina today on my MBP, and that screenshot of Allow/Deny notifcations hits the nail on the head! Likewise the popups about allowing apps to control other apps - what a wonderful way to introduce me to Catalina! I mean, come on, there has to be a better way than this, especially from a company supposedly famed for it's user-orientated designs and thinking?

How would you choose to handle it?

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#20

Post by mrzool »

Animats wrote: post #4
jacquesc wrote: post #2

Great post detailing everything wrong with Catalina so far. I installed it on my personal Mac, and that scared me off of ever installing it on my work laptop. Hopefully I can jump to whatever the next thing is. Or maybe it's time to get off Macs for good.

Or maybe it's time to get off Macs for good. At least don't try to use the version of Linux under MacOS as a Linux system. The OP is running cron jobs and Python in the background, and changes in the Apple security environment broke them. If you need to run Linux stuff, put it on a real Linux system.

macOS runs on Darwin, which is a BSD derivative. There’s no Linux involved at any level as far as I know. Also, cron is a standard Unix tool that predates Linux by at least a couple of decades I think.
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