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Re: Eek, A Male

#171

Post by alexophile » Wed, Jan 19, 2011, 11:04 PM UTC

stonemetal wrote: post #167

chc wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are an adult of some sort at 20, but for most people, that sort is "barely."

At 20 I had more than a decade of odd job work experience. It is just funny to see people who have such a different idea of what they are responsible for.

I had been working face to face customer service for my mom's business since I could talk - it could never have prepared me for this situation, as I suspect is the case with your odd job experience, but that's not the point.

I didn't have a problem with saying I didn't handle the situation like an adult - at no point did I contend that I did. But we were taking as much responsibility as we could feasibly handle, this just went above and beyond what we were prepared for.

So I hope you understand when I take exception to you suggesting that we didn't take on enough responsibility. This organization was filled entirely with people who wanted only to help their community by taking on additional responsibilities.

You could argue that we were irresponsible to take on such roles if we were unprepared, but there was nobody else stepping up to help out. This was in a town of 40k college students, most opting to spend that saturday morning getting some extra sleep or nursing a hangover.

So when you say it's "funny to see people who have such a different idea of what they are responsible for," I say "Yes. Yes it is."

Re: Eek, A Male

#172

Post by vacri » Thu, Jan 20, 2011, 3:32 AM UTC

gaius wrote: post #170

Semiapies wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cry us a river, gaius. If things like this article count as "real, actual discrimination", then pretty much every women-in-tech complaint includes tales of "real, actual discrimination".

THe article? No. The underlying fact that innocent men are hounded from their jobs by the cops they pay to protect them? Absolutely yes.

And innocent women aren't hounded from their tech jobs by the 'boys club' that is IT?

It's not a competition.

Re: Eek, A Male

#173

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 20, 2011, 2:16 PM UTC

alexophile wrote: post #171

stonemetal wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At 20 I had more than a decade of odd job work experience. It is just funny to see people who have such a different idea of what they are responsible for.

I had been working face to face customer service for my mom's business since I could talk - it could never have prepared me for this situation, as I suspect is the case with your odd job experience, but that's not the point. I didn't have a problem with saying I didn't handle the situation like an adult - at no point did I contend that I did. But we were taking as much responsibility as we could feasibly handle, this…

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Re: Eek, A Male

#174

Post by stonemetal » Thu, Jan 20, 2011, 2:54 PM UTC

alexophile wrote: post #171

stonemetal wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At 20 I had more than a decade of odd job work experience. It is just funny to see people who have such a different idea of what they are responsible for.

I had been working face to face customer service for my mom's business since I could talk - it could never have prepared me for this situation, as I suspect is the case with your odd job experience, but that's not the point. I didn't have a problem with saying I didn't handle the situation like an adult - at no point did I contend that I did. But we were taking as much responsibility as we could feasibly handle, this…

So I hope you understand when I take exception to you suggesting that we didn't take on enough responsibility.

Where did you take on responsibility? You went in to a situation where responsibility was required and when even the slightest hint of responsibility was necessary you said "I am not responsible, I am not even an adult". When you were clearly responsible and clearly an adult. Helping other is admirable. Flipping out and disclaiming responsibility at the slightest hint of trouble not so much.