Apple Removes HKmap.live from the App Store

Post by UIZealot » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:49 PM UTC

shadofx wrote: post #563

UIZealot wrote: post #355

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That's the gist of it. Of course I left out a lot of things, and not all of them are in the protesters's favor. > early on the police were ordering people to disperse even though there was no violence at that time. But did the police use violence first? > late in July there were increasing attacks on protesters in which police stood by as people were attacked with poles. It seems that in this case, it was the police…

>When you treat the police like your enemy, how do you expect them to rush to your help the moment you need it? And seeing that the protesters were more than capable of violence themselves, why would the police rush to help? Because you have a sense of honor and duty? Because you want to preserve the possibility of peaceful protest? The reasons go on.

Post by sho » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:51 PM UTC

the-pigeon wrote: post #623

sho wrote: post #315

Here we go again... Let me explain how Chinese people think about HK, since none of them ever seem to explain it on a site like this. Imagine you are a middle class American. Maybe you are but if not, just imagine, tech city on the east or west coast. You're pretty invested in being an American, skin in the game, manifest destiny etc. Very good. They call this tianxia by the way, basically Chinese manifest destiny. L…

This is not accurate at all. If you want to make an American analogy, it's more like if Puerto Rico wanted independence from the US. Because the US kept violating it's citizens human rights. That said Hong Kong is a fairly unique situation that doesn't accurately compare to any others in recent history.

Post by rayalez » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:52 PM UTC

journalctl wrote: post #268

stephc_int13 wrote: post #261

Blizzard and now Apple. I think this is very serious and it should be a wake-up call. As simple citizens we don't have much choices but vote with our wallets and use social networks to attack the most valuable asset of those companies, their reputation.

That’s not how this works. Apple is one of the wealthiest companies in the world, and saying “just don’t spend money there” is a bit reductionist and trivializes the problem of corporations with more power than nation-states. You need to fight fire with fire: governments of the world (especially the US government) need to create laws that restrict and punish this kind of behavior. Otherwise, I sincerely doubt Apple’s…

Post by leoc » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:53 PM UTC

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #514

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There is a supposedly 'unpatchable' new jailbreak for most currently-in-use iPhones, it seems: https://www.cnet.com/news/theres-a-new-jailbreak-for-million... .

I Jailbreak my own iPhone, and I'm personally delighted about checkm8. But for most people, this is yet another "unrealistic workaround". Imagine you're a Hong Kong protester. You're spending a significant portion of your time in the streets, and the rest at work, or school, or whatever other life tasks you're responsible for. Do you really want to spend an hour reading up on how to Jailbreak your phone? And then, be…

Post by squarefoot » Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 4:55 PM UTC

parliament32 wrote: post #597

This is why Apple will always be a second-class citizen to Android. If I have a good reason, I can toggle a setting and install APKs built by anyone. If I have a good reason, I can wipe my phone and unlock the bootloader to literally replace and de-Google the entire OS. When I buy a phone, it's a hardware product I'm buying. Just like when you buy a PC/laptop, what you run on it is your business, not the manufacturer…