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System76 Will Ship Linux Laptops With Coreboot-Based Open-Source Firmware

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Re: System76 Will Ship Linux Laptops With Coreboot-Based Open-Source Firmware

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I am Jeremy Soller, Principal Engineer at System76.

Let me know if you have any questions. The source for this can be found here:

https://github.com/system76/firmware-open

There are instructions there for building and testing the firmware in QEMU, you do not need to have our hardware to try it out.

Re: System76 Will Ship Linux Laptops With Coreboot-Based Open-Source Firmware

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I am Jeremy Soller, Principal Engineer at System76. Let me know if you have any questions. The source for this can be found here: https://github.com/system76/firmware-open There are instructions there for building and testing the firmware in QEMU, you do not need to have our hardware to try it out.

Hello!

With only needing the Intel FSP, does that disable the Intel ME? And what other peripherals need closed firmware?

You also are not here:

https://www.coreboot.org/users.html

I say that because I have been in the market for a laptop, and I am looking for a free(dom) based laptop. I looked there and it led me down the path of a Purism laptop.

Have you also thought about adding some sort of hardware kill switches for Cameras/microphones/Radios?

Re: System76 Will Ship Linux Laptops With Coreboot-Based Open-Source Firmware

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post #4

I am Jeremy Soller, Principal Engineer at System76. Let me know if you have any questions. The source for this can be found here: https://github.com/system76/firmware-open There are instructions there for building and testing the firmware in QEMU, you do not need to have our hardware to try it out.

Hello! With only needing the Intel FSP, does that disable the Intel ME? And what other peripherals need closed firmware? You also are not here: https://www.coreboot.org/users.html I say that because I have been in the market for a laptop, and I am looking for a free(dom) based laptop. I looked there and it led me down the path of a Purism laptop. Have you also thought about adding some sort of hardware kill switches…

The laptops which we will be delivering with open firmware will require the FSP and Intel ME, with the Intel GOP driver being an optional component to enable graphics acceleration in UEFI. The ME is disabled by way of a HECI message early in the boot process, so there are no runtime ME components similar to using the HAP bit on older ME versions.

I will get https://www.coreboot.org/users.html updated as soon as possible.

Re: System76 Will Ship Linux Laptops With Coreboot-Based Open-Source Firmware

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I am Jeremy Soller, Principal Engineer at System76. Let me know if you have any questions. The source for this can be found here: https://github.com/system76/firmware-open There are instructions there for building and testing the firmware in QEMU, you do not need to have our hardware to try it out.

I'm pretty happy with my Dell with Ubuntu, but it's really good to know there are other options out there, and I'll definitely be looking at these next time I need a new system.

Thanks for your work!

Re: System76 Will Ship Linux Laptops With Coreboot-Based Open-Source Firmware

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Sweet. I hope they're working on POWER9 and RISC-V offerings, too. The x86/amd64 monoculture needs to go.

It's not a laptop, but the Talos II workstation runs on POWER9 and has open firmware.

https://www.raptorcs.com/TALOSII/

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I wonder if that's working for them as a core selling point. Does having an open firmware really steer people into buying one of these laptops?

I'm curious to hear from an actual buyer on why they purchased that laptop when there are so many linux friendly options available.

For web dev I've been running ubuntu on a virtualbox on my macbook pro for years. It's pretty much just as fast as my fully specced out desktop.

Consider the fact that hardware wise they seem to be seriously lacking. All of their laptops have a 1920x1080 display. My 6 year old macbook has a 2880x1800 display. 6 years old!

There are a ton of linux friendly options on the market now with 4k displays and even OLED displays.

Re: System76 Will Ship Linux Laptops With Coreboot-Based Open-Source Firmware

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post #6

I am Jeremy Soller, Principal Engineer at System76. Let me know if you have any questions. The source for this can be found here: https://github.com/system76/firmware-open There are instructions there for building and testing the firmware in QEMU, you do not need to have our hardware to try it out.

I'm pretty happy with my Dell with Ubuntu, but it's really good to know there are other options out there, and I'll definitely be looking at these next time I need a new system. Thanks for your work!

Good to hear! If you want to play around with the firmware, you can still do so in virtualization using the qemu model.

Re: System76 Will Ship Linux Laptops With Coreboot-Based Open-Source Firmware

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I wonder if that's working for them as a core selling point. Does having an open firmware really steer people into buying one of these laptops? I'm curious to hear from an actual buyer on why they purchased that laptop when there are so many linux friendly options available. For web dev I've been running ubuntu on a virtualbox on my macbook pro for years. It's pretty much just as fast as my fully specced out desktop.…

I got a Gazelle a few days ago, mainly because I didn't want to have to troubleshoot anything when I get it. I wanted a plug and play linux experience, and this is it.
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