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Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by mattlondon »

Quite saddened to see this - I was hoping that Dyson might bring some interesting competition to the market. If they really did have something unique to bring in terms of motors and battery tech, I hope that gets licensed out/sold to the rest of the market.

More competition in the EV market is good - it is pleasing to see slightly more "normally priced" EVs coming to the market now rather than selling them as a premium luxury product. Perhaps Dyson was aiming for that premium pricing point (kinda how they do with their appliances), but have changed their mind now that you can get a ~150 mile range (163 WLTP) EV for £22,000 now (e.g. https://mg.co.uk/mg-zs-electric/). Would people be prepared to pay mega-prices for what people would inevitably call a glorified vacuum cleaner?

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by cactus2093 »

pdovy wrote: post #57
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

I have a V7 that my mother in law gave us and the cordless part is the only thing it has going for it. It doesn't do nearly as good a job as our corded Miele but it's good enough that I'll use it to spot clean when I don't want to lug that out.

Honestly curious, what kind of floors are you cleaning where you notice this, really deep carpets or something? I feel like the suction on my dyson v6 is perfectly adequate, better than any other cordless I've used and as good as an average bigger vacuum. We have mostly laminate floors and some really short carpets in the bedroom, and on either surface the dyson works well, pretty much gets everything visible after a single pass. I definitely don't feel a need to get a bigger vacuum for deeper cleans or anything.

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Post by ryanmcbride »

djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

I never understood the appeal of the Dyson 'bladeless' desk fans. They have fan blades, they're just in the base. The novelty isn't worth the $272 (current amazon price) to me.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by mytailorisrich »

dabeeeenster wrote: post #5
vernie wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please elaborate

He was very pro-Brexit, then left the country and moved to Singapore.

He tried to extend his mansion stealthily without seeking planning permission.

He's been buying up plenty of agricultural land in prevision of Brexit (which he obviously supported)

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by mattlondon »

numbers wrote: post #70

I have 4 Dyson products, besides the hair-dryer, all of the others are bad (can't say they suck b/c that's the main job of 2 of the vacuums and they can't get it done). I bought the dyson air purifier that's cold and hot, it's so bad...works at the same level as a USB fan... The vacuums are loud and look futuristic but can't clean anything properly. Any recommendations for a good vacuum are welcome!

I have a little li-ion handheld one from shark that is decent for my needs. https://sharkhandvac.co.uk/

I use a Botvac for floor cleaning and have been happy with that, apart from the battery being a bit crap

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by EnderMB »

rvz wrote: post #30
dabeeeenster wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was very pro-Brexit, then left the country and moved to Singapore.

Well, his move to Singapore apparently was to address the lack of finding engineering talent in the UK which has been a chronic issue in the UK for a long time. Simply finding talent elsewhere doesn't make Dyson a 'bad person' and this move has nothing got to do with the EU or Brexit in general.

Dyson always seem to struggle to find employees for their HQ in Malmesbury. They pay well, but the work rarely seems all that interesting, and young people don't seem to want to move outside of the main cities to work for a company with a not-so-great reputation.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by gnode »

jordache wrote: post #11

Shocked! This is akin to if a bicycle company tried to build cars, thinking their engineers can simply shift from bicycles to cars...

Except Dyson's expertise is electric motors and aerodynamics. This is arguably somewhat transferable to electric cars.

I can believe that they designed a nice product, but it seems to me that car manufacture is very economically hostile to new entrants. The only place where new entrants typically succeed is super-cars, where money is no object.

Taking Tesla as example, they had a successful strategy of starting with the high-end Roadster, then developing their business until they could make the Model S then Model 3 economically viable.

Re: Dyson has scrapped its electric car project

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Post by djaychela »

dtwest wrote: post #61
djaychela wrote: post #23

I'm surprised at this - seems bizarre that it's a 'great product' but isn't commercially viable in any way? As an aside, I really can't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Dyson products - I find them to be poor to use and poor performers. My gf has a dyson vacuum cleaner (a v6, I think), and it's terrible. Battery life is minimal, the suction is poor compared to anything I've used in the past, all the no…

> they take about the same time as any other dryer This is false. Before the Dyson Airblade and the really loud Xlerator ones, World Dryer was the most common hand dryer (in America at least), and they are awful. Forget about 10 seconds, you could stand there for 60 seconds and still want to use paper towels after.

Sorry, it's not false. I dried my hands using an Airblade V2 on Saturday in a services washroom. I timed it. It took 32 seconds. I did the same when using another make (when I was at PyconUK, in Cardiff city hall, feel free to check them out), and it took 30 seconds.

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Post by maxerickson »

riffraff wrote: post #65
Svip wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back when CRT televisions were the only option, Bang & Olufsen really made televisions of that era look great. But with flatscreens, everyone can make a television look great, so they've lost their edge. My point being, I don't think the comparison is fair. B&O used to be something. I don't think Dyson ever was.

Didn't they invent the bag-less vacuum cleaner?

No.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_cleaner#Cyclonic

They marketed a portable vacuum that doesn't use a bag or filter as the first dirt separation stage.

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