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UN Security Council Holds Closed Hearing on Turkey: Syria Update

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Re: UN Security Council Holds Closed Hearing on Turkey: Syria Update

#11

Why is Turkey in NATO? At this point Their behavior is nothing but antagonistic at best and downright nefarious at worst.

Because decades ago during the early stages of the cold war, the US needed a place close to Russia to plant nukes and Eastern Europe was taken, so Turkey was the best option at the time.

But now, with Eastern Europe and the Baltics part of NATO there are better options and Turkey's membership should be reviewed.

Re: UN Security Council Holds Closed Hearing on Turkey: Syria Update

#12

Why is Turkey in NATO? At this point Their behavior is nothing but antagonistic at best and downright nefarious at worst.

because: a) Turkey is the (almost literal) culture gate between Europe and the Middle East, this is in itself very valuable. b) Largest army in Europe. c) Erdogan still has to restrain himself because he has treaties with NATO allies. Otherwise we might get a second unhinged Putin. That would cause a real headache for the EU that tries to stop immigrants from reaching its borders by millions.

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Wouldn't this work to the benefit of Putin-Erdogan interests?

The refugee situation is one of the polarizing issues in EU/Brexit politics. The Turkey-Syrian conflict pushes a new wave to exacerbate internal polarization within the UK & EU - a side effect of the conflict but still furthers a broader agenda. Pretty crafty.

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#16

Why is Turkey in NATO? At this point Their behavior is nothing but antagonistic at best and downright nefarious at worst.

It cuts both ways, I am not sure US's sketchy and inconsistent behavior in Syria was in the interest of NATO either. This whole affair is a clusterf* and I don't think pushing Turkey further away will do any good to anyone. Also thankfully organizations like that are operated slightly better than HN and Reddit armchair strategists.

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post #13

That's not a very good threat. Diversity is Europe's strength and they will be welcome with open arms!

Indeed. It'd be nice to see a coordinated effort to welcome and resettle the refugees. A pro-active program that is a pan-ethnic, almost nationalistic to add these refugees to the EU economic and cultural might, with education on local customs and languages and other help in integration.

Call the bluff.

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post #13

That's not a very good threat. Diversity is Europe's strength and they will be welcome with open arms!

You forgot the /s.

Last refugee crisis destroyed any future plans for expansion of the Schengen zone, helped Brexit and propell right wing parties at elections in EU member states and also further distance the southern states from the north as they were left to deal with the crisis alone.

Edit: I'm not blaming the refugees, I'm highlighting that if Europe was so united as you suggest we wouldn't be having these issues but currently, as you can see, Europe's policy is every man for himself and the refugee crisis helped expose problems Europe already had.

Re: UN Security Council Holds Closed Hearing on Turkey: Syria Update

#20

Why is Turkey in NATO? At this point Their behavior is nothing but antagonistic at best and downright nefarious at worst.

It made sense during the cold war but they need to be kicked out now.

If Turkey got kicked out of NATO on bad terms, who do you think will step in to fill the power vacuum?
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